:trumpdumb: Trumped!

Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez

I’m not sure what I was supposed to write as what you wrote had nothing to do with what we were discussing ie “Muslim ban” to gun control so I thought I’d write something nice like that’s lovely.

Okay, I know that you struggle with English Barry so I will write this more slowly.

The point is that Donald wants to ban Muslims from entering the US of A in order to keep his fellow Americans safe. The simple fact is that his fellow Americans are much more likely to be killed or maimed by their neighbours than a Muslim terrorist. It follows does it not, that if he wants to keep his fellow Americans safe he is more likely to do so by, say banning the ownership of assault weapons, than keeping Muslims out of the country. You see, it is all about keeping American’s safe, or safer. Get it?

The thing is I haven’t seen that following on reasoning anywhere apart from your mind, it makes no sense.
Trump is appealing to populist concerns Mr Git, I think you’re a bit lost here.

So are you saying that Americans are not concerned about the amount of gun crimes carried out every single day? If he said he was going to do something to save American lives every day, would that not be a populist thing to do?

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Ah, the old red flag trick. Like the twin towers but on a smaller scale.

Considering that no-one from the proscribed countries has commited an atrocity on American soil it would be even more suspicious were it one of “them” who got copped for it…

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Sorry @barry-sanchez I follow @sadoldgit 's reasoning and have even thought the same myslef. I have just not expressed it publicly.

More Americans, in the last year, were killed by American children than by Muslim terrorists (I think I saw that fact somewhere!!)

Or if a home grown terrorist commits an atrocity it confirms what he has been saying that his ban would stop further attacks.

Clever as he wins either way and can lay the blame elsewhere.

That has nothing to do with an immigration ban, ban cigarettes, cars and burgers joints as well?

That is a comparison that bares no relevance to the proposal.

But it does though, the various college and school shootings last year, they killed loads of Americans on American soil, so they’re highly comparable.

But of course they weren’t carried out by the current “evil alien of the day” so they didn’t really happen.

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Children? I heard toddlers, a very small percentage of children. In Britain your apparently more likely to be done in by a wardrobe than a muslim. The evils of furniture(alien furniture i bet).

They’re two separate issues and Obama tried and failed to change this if you recall, why would Trump touch it? That’s a distraction and I haven’t seen any political experts raise this comparison.

Explain this please. How does banning foreigners stop home grown terrorists?

This scared me a bit so I have rounded up the local toddlers, locked them in the wardrobe and set fire to it.

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Because they’ve come in at some point ie 2nd generation Muslim turned bomber, this stops it.

Crazy but true, he can say his philosophy wouldn’t allow for that.

After all any Nation can choose who it allows in?

Sorry, this doesn’t make sense. Second generation from anywhere are American born. They haven’t come in.

On this logic, you would need to look at the ancestry of all people that commit any murders and ban all people from their families country of origin.

Good way to give the country back to the real natives i suppose.

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Nice to see someone taking their responsibilities to their community so seriously.

You’ll probably get an Award.

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yeah i can’t see Trump trying to make that argument, that ain’t gonna fly. The other one tho, if there’s a foreign terror incident, Trump is definitely gonna by like I Fkn Told You So, You Filfthy Libtards

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50% of them are concerned about the number of people being killed, the other 50% are concerned that they may not have sufficient guns to protect themselves.

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He is simply pressing the buttons of his opponents and its working I would say, he has cornered the democrats now and can say he was the one trying to (was his intentions real about the ban?) be hard on future terrorism and was taking the initiative, the democrats must have known this was coming and so the judges, keeping the people on a false alert is a great distraction from the realities of daily life.

At least Assad and The Sopranos are on Donald’s side:

Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez

They’re two separate issues and Obama tried and failed to change this if you recall, why would Trump touch it? That’s a distraction and I haven’t seen any political experts raise this comparison.

Not really. If he is serious about looking after his fellow Americans he would have more success if he dealt with the internal problems rather than worry about shutting out Muslims. Yes. Obama did try and do something about the gun situation and put his efforts there rather than shutting out Muslims, which is precisely my point. You didnt see Obama stopping Muslims coming to America and he clearly saw that gun laws are a major problem. My point has nothing to do with whether political experts were raising this point, I was simply making the point that if he was serious about saving American lives he would deal with the issues that are taking American lives every day rather than drumming up more xenophobia and playing to the gallery. But then you know that dont you :lou_wink:.

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