We do actually have a UKIP Apocalypse thread.
I agree. Those without families should not be allowed in positions of responsibility.
To make this work, it needs to be regionalised. I would also look at providing a percentage as vouchers, for rent, clothing, food, utilities etc that can only be used by the claimant. Would stop people being annoyed at those that bitch and moan about not having enough money, fag in hand.
Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
I agree. Those without families should not be allowed in positions of responsibility.
I wouldnât be as comfy applying that so broadly, but I would prefer the Prime Minister of the country to share the same concerns as the rest of us. The concern is that shorn of those concerns in a personal capacity, one could be indifferent to them in the main. Thatâs a wider problem with Tories in general, but could end up being particularly acute in this case.
I could not have seen the Conservatives winning power if May had been in charge. A few months ago, I might have been worried if sheâd managed to call a general election. Sheâs getting weaker each day, imo. This ragtag set of conference speeches is merely part of the unravelling.
I donât appear to be the only person that thinks May is using the military as a stepping stone to take us all out of the ECHR
Not so sure myself, itâs amazing how when youâre prejudiced against a person/party how you will automatically overstate the issues (we all do it unfortunately).
The Tories are going for that centre-ground, and with UKIP pretty much dead in the water and a vast number of very unhappy Labour supporters, thereâs a lot of voters to mop up.
There are a far vaster number of Labour voters enthused by what theyâve just seen.
I think you need to get things into perspective, Cherts. More people signed up to vote as Registered Supporters than presently exist in the Conservatives. More people voted for Owen Smith than presently exist in the Conservative Party.
It puts the Tories in a very dodgy place. Theyâre going to be reliant on wealthy donors for money and compared to Labour, the number of activists itâll have on the ground will seem so insignificant as to be a rounding error.
See, I see Membership of parties as an irrelevant metric. I used to be a member of the Conservative party, but havenât been since 2009. This has nothing to do with me not supporting the party, rather that Iâve had no reason to be a member. However, this is the reverse of the Labour party, where there has been a lot of sign-ups from the far left because someone in a major party is actually representing them.
However, for every member gained from the Greens, youâre losing one from the right of the party. My father in law is voting Lib Dem next election as a protest vote (heâs a staunch Labour âsupporterâ). Votes will definitely be leaving the Labour party, it all depends on where they are lost from and whether those constituencies are marginals.
You may be getting excited that Labour now has a bigger membership, but when it accounts for about 2.5% of the electorate itâs irrelevant.
The last polls shows the Conservatives up by 15 points (please not this was 6% before Corbyn won his most recent election).
Itâs not irrelevant to a partyâs funding, and thatâs an entirely relevant thing for an electorate to consider. Unfortunately, New Labour derived much of its income from the same kind of setup (low party numbers, lots of donors with disproportionate influence).
It says a lot when the Conservative offering in the North is so weak that local parties are considering laying strippers on to cover the difference. And I thought evangelical Christians were sneaky enough with their cheese and wine parties.
The conference, unfolding as we type, is basically a week-long unmasking of the nasty party. Itâs back. Companies are going to be forced to publish lists of foreigners. The Tory answer, despite Mayâs appeals to the contrary, is more hate, more rabble rousing and more division. Sheâll make firms targets for far right organisations.
Theyâre a disaster and the Tory press knows it. Thatâs why some of them are running stories like âfour years to save the country from Corbynâ 
Just have to agree to disagree.
Tbf, whatâs the problem with forcing companies to print lists of foreigners? Itâs what the 52% wanted afterall!
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Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
Tbf, whatâs the problem with forcing companies to print lists of foreigners? Itâs what the 52% wanted afterall!
Why not make them wear armbands or a special hat?
That way, theyâll be even easier for far right nutters to target.
Unfortunately Brexit has given the people of this country âpermissionâ to show what an intolerant bunch of cunts inhabits these islands.
Surely policies like these are what this country voted for? I know personally I didnât, but 52% of the population did.
How do you define someone as hard left Cherts? The media might call everyone thatâs not a raving tory as hard left, but that doesnât make it true. It would be like me calling everyone thatâs right of a centre a fascist. Itâs quite amusing to see people call Corbyn hard left, as it just shows their ignorance and how easily led by the right wing press they are.
Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
Unfortunately Brexit has given the people of this country âpermissionâ to show what an intolerant bunch of cunts inhabits these islands.
Surely policies like these are what this country voted for? I know personally I didnât, but 52% of the population did.
What youâll actually see is a huge reaction. May and co think theyâre playing to a majority. They may have a small one in Parliament (they probably donât, when you take factionalism into account). They couldnât be more wrong with the wider public.
Expect defeat after defeat in Parliament, not least because there will be Tories that simply wonât vote for anything this nasty.
In this day and age where the political spectrum is much narrower, Corbyn is very left. If weâre going with your definition then the Tories are just about centre, which Iâm sure you wouldnât be happy with.
Barry Sanchez does still post here, yâknow.
Show some respect, Cherts 
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But what is wrong with encouraging companies based in Britain to employ British citizens? Playing devils advocate here.
Originally posted by @Bathsaint
Simon from The Inbetweeners in 20 years time, but as competent with the NHS now as the nipper is at trying to get his end away in the TV show.
Useless fucking nob.
Itâs only taken the twat 4 years to ârealiseâ that by restricting the numbers of medical students coming through and pissing off the ones that are already present so they leave, that you have to employ replacements from abroad. That PPE from Oxford was really worth it. Cunt, indeed.
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