:tories: Tories in trouble?

Pretty sure that if the Tories said they are going to build a million council houses, empower the unions, super fund the NHS and tax the rich, Pap and SoS would fine something to criticise them with.

Given that they’re going to do precisely none of that, that’s a pretty useless comment.

See, criticsing tories again.

Originally posted by @CB-Saint

Originally posted by @pap

Originally posted by @CB-Saint

Pretty sure that if the Tories said they are going to build a million council houses, empower the unions, super fund the NHS and tax the rich, Pap and SoS would fine something to criticise them with.

Given that they’re going to do precisely none of that, that’s a pretty useless commen t.

See, criticsing tories again.

Justifiably so on this occasion.

Just keeping you honest, CB :lou_smiley:

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Lock that regional inequality in. Ensure that anyone wanting a higher wage has to move to a more affluent region (and not be able to afford fuck all when they get there).

Who wants to address inequality when it can be exploited, eh?

Theresa May’s new head of policy has previously developed plans to cut employment rights and wages in poorer areas, it has emerged.

George Freeman, a Conservative MP, wrote a paper in 2013 arguing that the minimum wage and public sector pay should be “regionalised”.

The paper, ‘The Innovation Economy Industrial Policy’, which he co-wrote with fellow MP Kwasi Kwarteng, suggests reducing the minimum wage in areas where incomes are lower.

Sorry to CB and all the other righties.

Your lot can’t seem to keep out of trouble.

George Aylett 🌹@GeorgeAylett

This Conservative govt have accumulated more debt than every Labour govt COMBINED. They’ve also borrowed more and lost AAA credit rating.

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I would praise them from the rooftops, then ask them why they demonised the disabled as the “useless eaters”? They copied Nazi propaganda FFS. It was the lowest, most disgusting thing i have ever witnessed from a British government towards the people they’re supposed to represent and protect.

Came close today, with their announcement that British troops are free to rape and torture. But that’s foreigners, so apparently that’s OK(have a read of the mail).

Putting the tories into power is like a limbo competition for the nation. “How low dare you go”. It doesn’t matter how low you think we can go, the tories will take us lower.

Sad times for anyone that considers themselves civilised.

Oh yeah, you’re spot on :lou_lol:

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if you truly believe that then you are deluded.

Originally posted by @pap

Sorry to CB and all the other righties.

Your lot can’t seem to keep out of trouble.

George Aylett 🌹 @GeorgeAylett

This Conservative govt have accumulated more debt than every Labour govt COMBINED. They’ve also borrowed more and lost AAA credit rating.

This is an old arguement, shall I wheel out the old Labour left them a historic deficit number?

Meh, I won’t have a massive go about this on here, but I don’t like this term. You’re not alone, CB - actual politicians bung it about like confetti and all, but I do think it’s a mental health slur.

Why? Because I know people that are genuinely deluded. They end up down at the Royal South Hants Department of Psychiatry, sectioned or worse. One mush I know claimed to be Jesus at one time, god at others and claimed he was going to be Prime Minister. Another claims he’s written pretty much every R&B song since the early 90s & ripped off by major labels.

I know it sounds amusing, but these people genuinely believe it, they’re genuinely deluded - causing them, their loved ones and society a shitload of stress, anxiety and worry.

Extrapolation is not delusion.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/deluded

Not sure why you are implying I am making light of mental health issues. Read the definition.

Anyone deluded is in a state of delusion. Sorry, but that term does carry mental health connotations.

a. A false belief or opinion: labored under the delusion that success was at hand.

b. Psychiatry A false belief or perception that is a manifestation of a mental illness: delusions of persecution.

believing things that are not true:

Delusional thinking is common in schizophrenia.

I glanced that headline today. Didn’t they go with “Brave Soldiers defeat legal vultures”?

I would happily agree with sensationalist, as was the intention.

What’s replacing the ECHR? Every time a law/regulation is taken away things only get worse.

Also why are the MOD paying out so much already and how will this backwards step help(assuming we are civilised people and not just worried about saving money).

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I’ve got a very nasty feeling that the shit is really going to hit the fan in November. As you say, SoS, once introduced or mucked with, things only get worse for Joe Public. Tuition fees are one example. The new 20K benefit cap, coming in November, could cause untold misery.

In Liverpool, not a city famed for it’s ultra-expensive rents, 840 families are at risk of homelessness because of the cut, including 2800 children. That’s Liverpool. What’ll the damage be in the South East?

The Tories could just about get away with the benefit cap when introduced because of their talent for moron-grabbing mechanisms like “no family on benefits should receive more money than those on the average wage”.

Even then, it was shite, failing to account for the fact that the average wage often wasn’t a living wage, depending on location and circumstances. Now it is going to be a fucking vice, tightening its grip. We’ll see evictions in January nationwide, ongoing after that. The destitution its capable of causing in larger families, often needing support through no fault of their own, is going to be incalculable.

Sad times. Got to get these buggers out.

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Aren’t all the unemployed feckless wasters that don’t want to work or have my government and press been lying to me?

Something about May scares the shit out of me much more than Cameron and Osborne ever did.

P.S have a look at all the articles in the Mail. It’s fucking scary if you read anything else.

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I’ve mentioned this before, and I have no intention on going Leadsom on Theresa May, but it does trouble me that she has literally none of the family connections that many of us fret over. No siblings, living parents or kids. Not to project but I personally worry about all three, and I’m guessing that most of the rest of the country worries about at least one category.

She has no dependents, yet a nation depends on her.

Not sure where to put this but UKIP leader Diane James stepping down.

Put it down to Nigel probably. He’s back isn’t he?