:tories: Tories in trouble?

Yeah, we’re going to have world beating UK only intranet.

It’s what the majority of those who voted in the Brexit referendum wanted. Sovereignty and fuck the EU and Jonny Foreigner. Can’t go against the majority.

Based on the dismal performance of the Government over the last few years and how they’re running the country into the ground it’s been sunlit uplands all the way hasn’t it? (Sarcasm btw)

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Perhaps if parliament had actually done what they’d been instructed to by the voters rather than block everything for three years and force practically every serious politician out of the tory party, there might have been a few vaguely competent tories left.

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Don’t you think that maybe the competent ones where those doing the blocking?

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OK - the headline tells you all you need to know about what the Tories are about

Initially, at least, they weren’t. The original deal to leave the EU, brought before parliament by Theresa May, was liked by nobody; however, had all Tory MPs voted for it, then it probably would have been passed, as there were a few opposition MPs who voted in favour, even though the DUP opposed it.

Instead, it fell to a heavy defeat, largely owing to the headbangers of the ERG voting en masse against it as it wasn’t hard line enough for them. But those Tory MPs who had backed staying in the EU, such as Kenneth Clarke and many others, voted for May’s deal - precisely because they saw it as their duty to vote for legislation that took the UK out of the EU, as the referendum result required.

That, of course, was just the start.

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She has also refused to rule out U-turning - my fear now is that she is more flakey that Boris

She abandons another policy then she is a dead duck

She would have been better off retaining the tax cut - it was unpopular,granted, but had she pushed it through she would have sent a message that she is not fucking about

Now instead of looking unpopular for favouring the wealthy, she looks weak, inconsidered and favouring the wealthy

The Minister for 1837 has just torpedoed Boris’s plan for a new Royal Yacht - How about HS2 next?

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She lost any ability to retain the tax cut when she blathered around on Sunday, saying that the rate cut was the Chancellors idea and not a collective Party policy. She did had a choice. Either say it was policy, however she forced herself into a corner and couldn’t do that as she fessed it wasn’t ratified by Cabinet. Or she could have got Crazi in over the weekend and said “you don’t announce policy without my say so - you’ve got half an hour to resign or i’ll sack you”. That would have been better - he would have been the fall guy. She’s weak, insipid and useless and wont last the year, irrespective of whether she carries out any u turns anymore.

I’m guessing that wasn’t an option, after he’d backed her once he was out of the race. They’d obviously cut a deal.

Anyone else wishing Sunak had been installed instead? I know I am.

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Maybe he’s got some pictures of Boris hanging out the back of her.

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doubt it - Mad Nad wouldnt have got off him long enough

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Another fail by the UK?

I know what you mean, but more like a total continuing fail by Apple, with legislation only needed because of them

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One more reason not to use them. I’ve never done so myself, but my techy nephew used to swear by all things Apple. He got fed up with them after some glitch, changed to a Samsung phone and a standard laptop, says he wishes he’d changed years ago.

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Ditto. Only Apple devices I have ever used have been work-issued. Over hyped and hate them

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We issue them as standard at work - got a stonking good corporate deal from phone network provider (iPhone 12) proving that they’re overpriced for the consumer market.

I’ve got one - am able to use it for personal stuff and no data limits but can’t chance IT seeing some of the WhatsApp stuff I get from @scotty nor watching footie streams :wink:

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God, that was excruciating, she is beyond awful, her so called answers were incoherent. Apparently she’s just told Times radio that the time to judge her performance as PM is the end of next year, deluded. She will be lucky to last until the end of next month.

Even The Sun are piling in, one of their politicos has tweeted a piece about the conference which is basically just taking the piss.

‘This Tory conference is so amazingly messy I still can’t believe it’s real. Ministers going completely rogue, MPs barely here but still throwing shade left right and centre, Tory members downing champagne while half laughing/half crying " we’re all fucked". It’s WILD.’
What an absolute shit show is unfolding, the rest of the world are looking at this with a mixture of astonishment and disbelief. it’s like the last days of Rome. Beyond embarrassing.

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It think the Tory party is unmanageable- way too many factions, way too many “big hitters” out in the cold and Gove outside the tent pissing in

For the second day running JRM talks sense and likens him to a Tory version of Mandleson

Sir Keith just needs to keep his head down - he is an absolute shoe in at this rate

The Tories need a dose of electoral oblivion - clean out a few of these factions and rebuild

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