:tories: Tories in trouble?

The Red Prince hasn’t managed anything of note in his political career thus far. I doubt this’ll be his debut.

Is there anyone credible pushing for this?

The Kinnocks are indeed twats. All of them. We must all remember when Neil, in the election against Major, when presented with an open goal, somehow managed to fuck it up. Remember the rally in Sheffield? "We’re orl right! we’re orl right. Standing on that stage, on the eve of the election, with Mandelson and Prescott dancing like your dad at the school disco to “Things can only get better”? Making complete and utter cunts of themselves! All of the undecided, including many, many of my acquaintances who were non political, but staunch Labour voters, told me the next day that they looked on, shook their heads and thought,“No, i can’t have a prick like that as my Prime Minister”. Remember that Neil Kinnock made his political name being a rabid anti European. Thats how he became leader of the Labour Party. Then what happened after he fucked up? He became a European Commissioner, quickly followed by his fragrant wife, Glenys, quickly followed on the gravy train by his son, daughter, all of them taking the Euro Shilling. Neil Kinnock also made his political name in the Labour Party, railing against the “undemocratic’ House of Lords. Now look at them. Baron Kinnock of Bedwellty, the fragrant Glenys, Baroness Kinnock of Holyhead. What a bunch of hypocritical shysters. It is beyond comprehension how anybody with a brain cell can take these people seriously. But they do. Stephen Kinnock is married, (notionally), to Helle Thorning-Schmidt, who later became Prime Minister of Denmark. In 2010 they were both accused of tax evasion, at that time he was paying tax in Switzerland, where his workplace was situated, and therefore had his main residence there, although his wife’s political website stated that they lived in Copenhagen! The couple had previously stated to the media that Kinnock would spend his weekends in Denmark and that he regarded his home base as being exclusively in Denmark! Therefore he should have been paying tax in Denmark. The Kinnock family, all of them are money grabbing shysters, Stephen was parachuted into a safe Labour seat in the Welsh valleys, courtesy of his father and his connections, and has spent the last 18 months doing everything he can to undermine the elected leader of the Labour Party. He, and his family have naked ambitions for him to become Labour party leader, carrying on the family dynasty. The only fly in the ointment, possibly, is that if, (God forbid) that should ever happen, is how he would stand up to the scrutiny of the tabloids. Remember the Sun headline on the morning of the election when Kinnock senior stood against Major? " If Labour get elected will the last person to leave Britain turn out the lights!” “It was the Sun wot won it”! When i used the word ‘notionally’ regarding Stephen Kinnock’s marriage to the Danish Prime Minister there was a reason. It is common knowledge in Labour Party circles that it is a marriage of convenience, Stephen Kinnock is as camp as a row of tents. Nothing wrong with that of course, totally irrelevent as far as i’m concerned, but just imagine what the Sun and Mail would do with it!

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They’ll do exactly what they did with William Hagues sham marriage , fuck all.

William Hague You would have thought he was the bastard love child of Thatcher and Heseltine until you saw how much hair he had.

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Except of course, that Hague was a Tory. I rather think that a Labour party leader would get completely different treatment from the likes of The Sun and The mail.

You’ve lost the plot, Pap. You can’t be posting shit like this while supporting Corbyn who is a couple of years away from losing to an unelected second string Prime Minister.

The sun were labour supporting when Hague was Tory leader

Heseltine sacked by Govt for voting against the Brexit legislation in the Lords.

Heseltine sacked at last

I can post whatever I like, matey, especially if the only counter-evidence to my factual statement is speculation :lou_smiley:

Suprised that no one has mentioned the omNICshambles (as no one is calling it) after the budget.

NIC stands for National Insurance Contributions and for anyone out there who is self-employed, you’re about to be wholloped by a hike in your NI contributions, despite the Tories promising in their manifesto to freeze NICs and income tax for the duration of the parliament. From the Express (the paper of choice for White Van Man):

Attack on the white van man: Hammond’s Budget condemned for tax hike on self employed

I’m self employed mate its about 2 quid a week more in NI, the white van man … it’s more a tax rise that Cameron absolutely promised against. Also, expect it to be voted down, it’s actually not bad if it goes to the NHS.

Walloped? Please, how much will we be walloped with a week?

Most of the criticism and commentary has gone in the Spring Budget 2017 thread.

I’ll put this here although there may be a thread it’s better suited to. May intervened so the Met can challenge that they don’t have to investigate serious crime properly.

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That revolving door of the Establishment.

If you are an MP (of any political party) that is your job which you are paid for and can claim expenses for. That’s it. It should be your only job, the job of representing your constituents. Not your banking colleagues, or your private health colleagues or your junk food / cigarette touting colleagues

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Plenty of workers aren’t allowed a second job that interfers with their main role so why is it fine for MPs?

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Personally I’d like more Doctors, union officials , lawyers & other wise heads working in the real world occasionally, than just being professional politicians. If that’s your only job you’re easy to whip and bend to the parties views. We need more independent thinkers, not less. Perhaps if they spent less time in the Westminster bubble and more time working in the real world, they would get the fuck out of our lives a bit more.

It should be up to your constituents whether you’re outside work is ok. Provided it’s declared and upfront, they are MP’s employers, if they think their second job is interfering with their job as an MP , then vote them out.

Absolutely they should have some other work background but move away from it to do the MP role.

It would be good to know what work they intend to continue with whilst as an MP so we can decide who to vote for.

Agreed, it’s the transparency that’s the key. Clearly MP’s like Osborne taking the cash to advise financial institutions stinks, but the problem is throwing the baby out with the bath water. On QT in the week the SNP numptys said they were going to legislate to ban MSP’s from having second jobs. This ban obviously plays well when you’re talking about Osborne and other such deals, but what about a GP working 1 day in a practise or a teacher, lecturing in a school occasionally. I hate the modern trend of banning stuff you don’t like. It is for the constituents of Tatton to ban George Osborne’s second job, by kicking him out of his first one, not the state deciding it’s against the law.

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Interesting. We’ve known about this for months, obviously - as Sotonians is “The Best News Source In The World”.

They were mentioning it on Radio4’s Today Programme this morning. It’s obviously graduated to a story the rest of the news cares about.

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