:tories: Tories in trouble?

The Government have quietly slipped out the news that we will no longer be accepting unaccompanied child refugees.

Wonder if Owen Jones thinks he shot his load too early in organising protests? Maybe he should have been looking a little closer to home.

Pretty appalling considering it was a small number really.

Happy to protest this government too.

They took 354.

354 out of danger, though we should be doing better.

You’re forgetting that it was our belligerence that put them in danger. I expect our bombs killed a lot more than 354 kids too.

The 1990s sanctions alone in Iraq killed 500,000. How many do you think a series of actual wars, prosecuted over 16 years, will have killed?

We fucked something up beyond recognition and refuse to face the consequences. We’re a fucking disgrace.

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I’m not forgetting at all Pap

Our politicians are a disgrace and arguably so are we the British people for continually allowing it to happen.

What can anyone do to change it when nobody else will do anything ?

Maybe we’re just waiting until we’ve finished fucking it up?

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One hundred years ago, people were overthrowing the Romanov dynasty and hundreds of years of autocratic rule, and this is in a country which got out of serfdom much much later than everyone else. I wonder what these people, that set the course of history despite all the odds, would make of the paralysis you describe.

Not quite a Tory tale, but seeing as it is their main mouthpiece I lol’d at this

Wiki bans Daily Mail articles

The tabloid is too ‘unreliable’ to be trusted for articles.

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they would prob say, wow, what gr8 lives you lot have, why are you moaning? Come see us when half of you is starving to death. Besides, I’m pretty sure it was out of frying pan into fire, for them poor cunts.

There is a vigil tomorrow outside Downing Street regarding child refugees.

So Amber Rudd said something along the lines of:

  • The numbers (of refugee children) we can take in are based on local authorities’ capacity.

Well maybe her government could fund local authorities properly. Allegedly children’s social care budgets aren’t cut but they are, the work is increasing, but there is no extra cash and the support services lose funding and fold. Due to their cuts to benefits, council housing etc… we are dealing with more homeless famlies and having to support them. We aren’t spending money on systems and they are failing families.

  • The government does not want to incentivise children to make the perilous journey to the UK.

This is just laughable that it’s incentivising them. I do think that the UK should be encouraging our EU partners to be implemnting their child protection proceedures. I cannot understand how any child is out on their own in any of the countries in 2017. No children should be in tents in Calais on their own. It’s truely and utterly appalling. I am being polite about this.

  • Rudd emphasised the point that child refugees in The Region (Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq and Iran) are the most vulnerable, and by helping child refugees in Europe we are encouraging trafficking

Sorry but I think trafficking will carry on as long as there are desperate people fleeing wars.

I saw someone on twitter say to someone ‘oh you leftie, why don’t you take 10 refugees in then’. Well I would happily take a kid in, if given the support they would need for the trauma they have endured. And guess what, our child mental health services aren’t all they’re cracked up to be due to … lack of funding. So people are unlikely to get that much needed support.

Discovered the other day my blood pressure is up. Is it any wonder. Bloody angry.

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Originally posted by @Intiniki

No children should be in tents in Calais on their own.

No they shouldn’t be, but surely this is a French issue rather than ours. I’ve no doubt had they been in tents waiting in NI to get to Eire, you’d be blaming the UK government not the Republics. France is a safe country, properous country. Instead of hitting out at the uk government how about hitting out at the people allowing this, the French?

Safe for white people, perhaps. France has never been as good as us at immigration. They’re heading into a Presidential election in which the National Front could win. Besides, we bear a much greater degree of responsibility for creating the crisis. France didn’t get involved in Iraq, for example - famously attracting the cheese-eatin’ surrender monkey tag from the Americans.

France _did _get involved in Libya, so like us, they’re responsible for the refugees that have made the trip from the African interior.

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So, be evil because others are? That’s a terrible argument. It’s at times of need that good people need to stand up, whilst the selfish just point at other selfish people and say, they’re doing nothing, why should we.

You’re condoning leaving children abandoned because another country does it. Are we to copy the worst of each country now?

I don’t give a fuck how cuntish the french are. We used to applaud saving children remember.

Seriously amazed that you’re prepared to watch children die just because the french are.

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are them kids in that camp dieing? srs question no trolls pls

I’ll have to claim dramatic licence Bearsy as I believe some have but not positive.

The point still stands though. Using others evil is no excuse for our own.

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Before the bit you quoted I said the UK should be encouraging the other countries to implement their child protection procedures for these children. Not just France but any county that has legislation around lone childredn/trafficked children etc.In the UK our legislation says that when we become aware of a child in need we have a duty to assess and provide support where necessary.

All of these counties (including ours) should also follow the UNHCR 1951 Refugee Convention.

When I say encouraged I mean really pushing them to be more responsible for these kids. I have tried to get a grip of the legislation abroad but find it difficult to get a clear picture.

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ok i was just wonder.

how many orphans is there sitting at calais wanting to come over?

Edit: sry full of questions this am i can prob google this my Self.