I don’t have a problem with it. If people want to continue pro-creating then they should have to pay for their own kids. However, it is difficult, as the children should never be punished for their parent’s recklessness, and if those kids have to go into care because of it then it will severely impact their lives.
Honestly, I don’t have a solution for it.
I reckon you do, otherwise you’d not need to invoke the “vast majority of people” without any proof.
No disrespect, but I’ve paid more tax this year than you’ll earn when you start your Lloyds job. If I’m alright having my money spent so kids don’t starve, then fast-track career boy like yourself should thank his lucky stars and shut the fuck up.
No disrespect, as I said.
Runt, Fatso, Runt.
Younger siblings were put on this earth to confirm the superiority of the eldest sibling.
Hrm. Well I’m taking nothing for granted till I’ve started and I’m into the swing of things. Till then they can withdraw the contract at any time as its only conditional - and that means that for now, I’m still a loser living at home with parents who’d have been better off dropping out of school at 16, knocking a girl up and living the life of Riley on benefits.
Ha.
My two tricks for raising my daughters were:-
Well, yeah, compared with pap palace, where you pay more tax a year than most bros earn, benefit life prob does look bad.
But if you can only get low-pay work, ur prob just as well to go benefits. Especially if you’ve got kids.
Did you really say ‘life of riley’?
Look, I’m all for benefits being cut to levels where it means that people don’t get luxuries if they’re living on benefits, and they have enough money to eat, pay rent and bills and be clothed. However, to think that anyone lives the life of Riley on benefits after years of Tory cuts is ridiculous.
Yeah, it’s great. Key meters, being at the whim of the DWP and the loan sharks that roam the estates, knowing that there are shitload of skint people that’ll take literally any rate of interest.
That’s all true, I’m not saying it’s gr8 deal at all, but i think ur over-estimating the life of a bro on anything approaching minimum wage, if you think it’s Much Better.
The equivalent of a £38k salary (well, well above the average wage of £26k), with one parent working and another being a stay-at-home Mum/Dad, whilst living in a first-world country with free healthcare/schooling and a well-established rule of law.
What’s so hard about all of that?
I’d prob pay £20k pa, if it meant I could stay at home all day, watching daytime tv & jacking it. You need to add that to ur £38k, cos that’s the real Benefit of Benefits.
Originally posted by @MrTrampoline
The equivalent of a £38k salary (well, well above the average wage of £26k), with one parent working and another being a stay-at-home Mum/Dad, whilst living in a first-world country with free healthcare/schooling and a well-established rule of law.
What’s so hard about all of that?
You do know that we were talking about tax credits, right?
This’ll be money paid to working peeps because their employers don’t pay enough. But still, don’t let that prevent you from making your pre-planned statement on the unemployed.
So we’re talking about £38k per year, including or excluding the working persons pay?
If including, then that’s not a lot for a family of 4. It’s do-able but it’s not that high. I remember when I was living with the missus in Southampton just after we’d left Uni. We had a two bed flat, no kids, and we’re on about £55k combined, and it wasn’t THAT easy, so I would assume it’s a lot harder on less.
Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
So we’re talking about £38k per year, including or excluding the working persons pay?
If including, then that’s not a lot for a family of 4. It’s do-able but it’s not that high. I remember when I was living with the missus in Southampton just after we’d left Uni. We had a two bed flat, no kids, and we’re on about £55k combined, and it wasn’t THAT easy, so I would assume it’s a lot harder on less.
Fuck me Cherts, me and the missus are on about that combined now, and we have 3 kids! And I thought we were comfortably off??
What were you doing with your money? Out every night on the lash? Visiting Southampton super-clubs until 3 in the morning?
Tons of crack…
And you still can’t buy a cheap bomb to drop on Syria for that sort of cash.
12K short.
Pushing at an open door with me if you’re telling me we spooge money up the wall on wars we shouldn’t be involved in man. No argument there whatsoever.
Perhaps then, sir would care to answer why he brought the unemployed into a discussion on tax credits, a benefit for the employed.
Where? I thought I said from the start that the £38k (that figure is equivalent to a gross 38k salary so near enough £28-29k net or so, admittedly) and included £13k from a min wage job.