But credible evidence is in scant supply Pap.
Doesn’t stop people from spouting off though does it?
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Yes indeed, dubious sources from echo chambers are always throw into the mix, I’d rather use sources that don’t have axes to grind.
I don’t trust Viking sources much either. Outdated.
I’m more worried about sources with weapons to sell.
Any chance you could link the actual tweet rather than coming across all mystic Meg?
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There are lots of tweets saying the ship has been hit and on fire, I’m going more on the fact Russia lied last time about the Moskva not sinking and they’ve gone quiet this time, there are photos with people saying the ship is in port but again people are saying that’s fake and an old photo, in this situation with little news to come out its hard to get to the truth but the Russian’s have proved themselves to be total liars so this for me is hope more than full proof.
When since when was full proof required to prosecute a war?
I just wanted a link to the tweet you were referring to but whatever.
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What saying the Makarov is on fire?
There are loads of them, also the msm has put out loads, no need to link a tweet as its all over the news.
Thank you.
There’s loads of links saying “reports say…” tbh.
This is a fact however, a huge blow for morale, their best tank by a long way, they’ll all get chewed up eventually.
Same source. “Ukrainian officials”
Indeed but from a more reputable source than some west hate weirdo in a bedsit.
“Ukrainian officials” a reputable source.
You’re having a fucking laugh. Like I said, well worth remembering the original Snake Island video which the gullible fell for hook line and sinker.
Tbh I did see something earlier on Beeb site about it & it quoted MOD sources but with a different angle
Am in a Mall atm & will try & search for it l8r
Pap you’re getting confused, I’m using msm as a source of information, if they choose to use “a source” then so be it but editors I presume do have some pride and at the very least caveats due to the fog of war.
If all the articles reference the same nebulous Ukrainian officials.
It has been a very strange time for me @Polski_Filip. I have seen a number of people that I respect rather a lot lose their critical faculties.
The first casualty of war is the truth, and we’re never going to get it if we’re only hearing one side.
Another example here.
This is the potential other side of the Azovstal civilians situation. So many were ready to accept that the civilians’ foreknowledge of the Azovstal’s bunker style defences to withstand nukes was the motivation.
In a Russian speaking city, plagued by the Azov Battalion for the last eight years, in an environment where we’ve seen public punishments orchestrated by Ukrainian hardliners, human shields and hostages were always more likely.
You have to make your own mind up, do I trust the Ukrainians over the Russians?
Fucking right I do, for a start the Ukrainians won’t lock you up for 15 years for mentioning the war.
As if by divine grace,
These loses if true are astronomical.