Very, very whiffy:
France not really onboard with Theresaâs take.
You can call your detractors conspiracy theorists, sympathisers or whatever, Theresa May.
But when one of your closest allies essentially says youâre talking shit, the world knows youâre talking shit, no matter what soap opera cum spy thriller you get the BBC to puke up.
Only bombs that have ever played havoc with my physical or mental well being were Jaeger Bombs
Interesting read Pap.
I find it a bit shit that many opposition MPs are agreeing with Mayâs story - as the opposition they should be questioning the âfactsâ at every opportunity to ensure the truth is told, not some version of the truth manufactured somewhere in Whitehall
Think it was seventy five.
Thatâs a long way short of 172, the number that launched the chicken coup, and isnât a majority anymore.
For the dyed-in-the-wool Corbyn supporter, thatâs progress
I have to say I liked Corbynâs questions to the PM. Itâs hardly unreasonable to ask about what proof we have of Russian involvement, how conclusive it is, whether or not we intend to respond to Russiaâs request for a sample of the nerve agent, and why we havenât given Russia ten days to respond, as the convention on chemical weapons specifies.
While I certainly wouldnât rule out Russian involvement, and I realise that theyâll deny everything no matter what, I wouldnât jump to the conclusion that this was a Russian act without some solid evidence to that effect. Which is pretty much what Emanuel Macron appears to have said.
An act of genius by May?
How many will die across Europe IF the Gas is turned off in a Cold Spell?
Youâre getting warm Phil. Itâs pipeline politics.
âLast week, the US-led political campaign to scupper the Russia-EU Nord Stream 2 project was given renewed impetus.â
No coincidence that as the Syrian situation nears a resolution which gives Russia a pipeline route to the Med and at the same time Turkey starts to look away from Europe that all these games start popping up.
The stupidity is that they decide to grab a Bear by the tail with not a single card in their hands and knowing their opponent holds a Royal Flush.
#amateurhour
Interesting that the Fail article mentions the closure of UK storage facilities. So, if people die, or services and manufacturing are adversely affected if gas supplies are disrupted will the Govt admit culpability for being so short sighted?
I suspect theyâd use it to have another pop at the Russians going by current form
Panorama last night didnt show Putinâs Russia in a good light. It would appear that nothing has changed since the last Cold War. According to one of their senior ministers they have a better record with freedom of speech than we do. lol
Not sure how up to date this info is but from the diagram it seems the % we get from Russia comes via a pipeline into Europe. If Russia wanted to turn off the tap to the UK theyâd have to do it to the rest of EuropeâŚthat seems unlikely.
Looks like the French have decided it was the Russians
The leaders of France, Germany, the US and UK have issued a statement on the nerve agent attack in the UK, saying there is âno plausible alternative explanationâ to Russian responsibility.
They condemned the âfirst offensive use of a nerve agent in Europe since the Second World Warâ, calling it an assault on UK sovereignty.
Read that as well. Must be some conclusive proof for Marcon to change his tune so emphatically. And then there are the new American sanctions just announced because America has decided Russia interfered in not only their election but also their grid.
Wonderful choreography all round.
Who got to decide what was allowed to be concidered as plausible?
I think it was pap, but Iâm not quite sureâŚ
Thatâs good @themightyostrich wasnât expecting it and youâve merged two threads, whilst staying on topic.
Given weâre all miserable cynical old farts I thought Iâd share Teenage Mutantâs view after reading the article. Ignore the txt speak and lack of punctuation / grammar - it was sent by txt. I could translate it but Iâm sure youâll get the gist of it. If you have kids they might help youâŚ
Anyway, just another view to add to the shitstorm"
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Interesting read a few things donât seem right though, the U.K. is working with the OPCW and that guy from porton down only said published in public domain so privately through spies might know? Definitely seems they jumped the gun in saying Russia but does look a lot like similar things done by Russia.
If Russia did this they knew sanctions would come so with Russia there gas will be expensive and the eu would go to other countries most likely us since they are close allies and have 4 th largest reserves. Could make a whole conspiracy at how trump did it
Us did take over the Uzbek facilities tooâŚ"
The only adult in the room.
Could you do the honours with the link please modboy.