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Trying to defend the Bastion of British Democracy after the locals have all seen that.

So that’s it?

Your entire big brain scheme is shag flag-> vote Starmer -> profit (elect ever so slightly less right wing government puppeteered by oligarchy)

That is the full extent of the vision you’re putting forward?

I have to compromise on my principles and shag a flag and all I get is a Keir Starmer government.

Forgive me for saying that that sounds a bit shit.

No idea what you are talking about Re: Biden/Putin

That’s it, that is all there is, you’ve a better idea for Labour to achieve power without it?

I am listening.

If you are not a part of a community how on earth do you know why people engage with them? A community is just a gathering of people as are the other groups you mention.

I don’t want this Labour party to win power. Having joined up and campaigned for Corbyn, I very much doubt that I will be voting for them at the next election.

The party is rotten and may be in its death throes (but that remains to be seen).

We got to this point because you proclaimed to be a flag shagger and you claimed that shagging the flag was the only way to win power in this country.

I asked for your vision of what that power would look like and how shagging the flag would get us to that point. You haven’t really explained how shagging a flag gets us there but having outlined where it is you were planning to take us, you needn’t bother, as I don’t want to go there.

You seem to see a democratic socialist government the same as you see a top 4 finish for Saints. You’re not a realist/pragmatist you just have no ambition. You claim to love Saints/this country but In your eyes Jack Stephens represents the voters of this country and you have no faith in their ability to change or do anything right.

I see you as a stripper in a lap dancing club, resigned to your place, ass gaping but bizarrely absolutely loving it as a wealthy punter stuffs a Union Jack inside you with his fist. That is my vision.

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Reaching and speculation much?

It is, very we like it or not, or we’ll be pure from the sidelines.

Correct, most voters vote short term and for themselves and not for the benefit of the Country and its citizens.

Where is this gaff as most places only show you a bit of tit for a score.

I think of you, no I don’t sorry I just don’t, its abject holier than though self righteous wank, be a priest spouting but you’ll it where no one will give a fuck as you’ll have no power or even a route to it.
You change little or nothing when you’re not in power.

You are not it power with a Keir Starmer Labour government in charge. You will still be on the sidelines, but with a Union Jack stuffed up your arse.

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Andrew Rawnsley in the Observer, who usually has impeccable sources in the Labour Party was told by a shadow minister that ‘Focus Groups’ have said the party must use patriotism, wrap themselves in the Union Jack, dress smartly in nice suits with nice short back and sides haircuts, and all will be well. Most tellingly they say that Starmer must stop criticizing and opposing the government, as every time they do, support from these ‘focus groups’ falls away.
Who are these focus groups? I suspect they are the so called Red Wall. Turning the Labour Party into a BNP tribute act may well work with them, but they will lose most of the young support they gained under Corbyn, as well as the support of many traditional Labour voters, conviction led real socialists, especially in cities like London. I suspect Starmer and his backers would have no problem with that though, sadly they would probably see that as a result.

Concession is needed quite obviously to get into power, the last election showed us this quite convincingly unless you have been living under a rock.

How many young actually vote?
They’re vocal but few in the grand scheme of things, politically we’re asleep in this country, just the way the big 2 like it.

I think that we can agree that Mike Dean is a twat and a poor referee, but death threats to himself and family? Christ we have some nutters out there.

I agree.
Keith Hackett was scathing in today’s Telegraph and called for Dean and Mason to be removed from the referees list.

Equally PGMOL must take some responsibility.
They did nothing to stand up for him or even suggest he needed a break

Genius.

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Strike!

Apart from the PiS influenced TVN, Every Media outlet here has gone off air due to proposed taxation on Advertising.
Radio TV Web based. All gone

Alone not noteworthy but there is a lot of unrest with State owned Orlen buying up huge swathes of independent news businesses. Orlen are a huge donor to PiS

I was watching this and have to say it was amazing, the fellow was so good you actually forgot he was there defending Trump, he mentioned him at the start but that was it, he was just going over on patriotism and his childhood.
Ha Ha I doubt it’d be allowed here but he was good at talking crap, no wonder the Trump camp is fucked off.

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And just to show Bitcoin’s “green” credentials


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This is probably one for @Intiniki to give her initial thoughts (rather @Barry-Sanchez ) please

Meant to also post this

They’re not profitable without income m from US regulatory credits. :thinking: