Well, it assumes that without the permit system etc the immigrant population would be the same level as the UK. The reason immigrants are not going to the Isle of Man is because itās the Isle of Man. Thatās about as much as a response as I can muster to be honest. There is so much wrong with the post that it would take forever I really donāt feel like I have the energy. And to me, it doesnāt matter if itās you, your dad, Barry Sanchez, Lou or the queen making postsā¦if itās bollocks I am happy to point it out.
Donāt quote me to justify your argument, Iām a socialist and euro sceptic not a racist, thatās a common lazy rabid slur thrown by imbeciles who donāt like people having an open debate on the UKās role within this deeply undemocratic un union.
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @Fatso
Well, it assumes that without the permit system etc the immigrant population would be the same level as the UK. The reason immigrants are not going to the Isle of Man is because itās the Isle of Man. Thatās about as much as a response as I can muster to be honest. There is so much wrong with the post that it would take forever I really donāt feel like I have the energy. And to me, it doesnāt matter if itās you, your dad, Barry Sanchez, Lou or the queen making postsā¦if itās bollocks I am happy to point it out.
Donāt quote me to justify your argument, Iām a socialist and euro sceptic not a racist, thatās a common lazy rabid slur thrown by imbeciles who donāt like people having an open debate on the UKās role within this deeply undemocratic un union.
Donāt be a bumhole, Barry.
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @Fatso
Well, it assumes that without the permit system etc the immigrant population would be the same level as the UK. The reason immigrants are not going to the Isle of Man is because itās the Isle of Man. Thatās about as much as a response as I can muster to be honest. There is so much wrong with the post that it would take forever I really donāt feel like I have the energy. And to me, it doesnāt matter if itās you, your dad, Barry Sanchez, Lou or the queen making postsā¦if itās bollocks I am happy to point it out.
Donāt quote me to justify your argument, Iām a socialist and euro sceptic not a racist, thatās a common lazy rabid slur thrown by imbeciles who donāt like people having an open debate on the UKās role within this deeply undemocratic un union.
Yeah, Fatso, donāt quote me to justify your argument either!!
(I thinkā¦no hang on, Iām confused)
Donāt be a bumhole, Lou.
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Fatso, this is specifically for you. My position is that I am a racist. I donāt like foreign freeloaders. I am not a subscriber to the liberal elitist view that we should take on all and sundry that feel that Britain is a soft touch. As a young man I was a member of the Workers Revolutionary Party. I naively thought that it was our duty to care for the rest of the world and that we would all benefit from manās humanity to one another.
Time has taken itās toll and now I detest the fact that twats like you would see our country decimated by Moslem invaders and do nothing to stop it but offer only appeasement and āright onā platitudes to our very sovereignty and survival as a Christian country.
One day, you may hang your head in shame for giving away our childrenās and grandchildrenās heritage but until that time please rest assured that your acquiescence to a totally alien concept in our lives will not be tolerated by a large percentage of our population.
Also forget the fact that Pap is my nipper. He can look after himself. He, clearly has his own views, which are generally opposed to mine.
To dismiss my post as bollocks is disingenguous and is as condescending as fuck and displays absolutely no tolerance of other peoples fears for our future.
In the meantime I hope your ear holes turn into arseholes and you shit all down your neck.
Lots of love, Pete.
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Brilliant come back Unionhotel. Not that I agree with you, but Iām still in admiration.
The ear holes into arseholes description was a thing of beauty.
Right on Pete.
Originally posted by @unionhotel
My position is that I am a racist.
Not a sentence you hear everyday. I would give i.e. John Terry a lot more credit, if he just come out and said it.
I thought unionhotel being papās pap was like some frm joke that had passed me by, I didnāt think it was 4real. Bet itās nightmare round papās manor at Christmas, when someone mentions politics at the Dinner Table.
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I donāt think Pete is saying he is a racist, I think he is saying if what Fatso is proposing than he is happy to be so, if for instance Fatso is talking bollocks then the claim and statement is false.
The European Union is a brilliant idea. Itās just a damned shame they let Politicians anywhere near it.
On the subject of migrants I think it is fantastic that you can live and work in any EU country that will have you where you can make a difference. Iām just annoyed I never got to stay long enough in France or Germany to claim all the entitlements that workers get after a few years.
As for the āBoat Peopleā/āCalaisā issue, well, on that I have sympathy for the British people, millions marched to protest the invasion of Iraq but old Tone went along with the lies and helped GWB blow them into the stone age, then (depending which conspiracy theory you read) the Israelis decided to get theYanks to give North Africa democracy and the rest as they say is history and people hiding in OAPās campervan toilets.
Take Politics (especially Social Democracy & Socialism out of the fabric of the EU and keep all the benefit to the people and business and it would all have worked.
Unfortunately (ALMOST) every member of the Political Elite since the dawn of time has only been in it for one thing - their Dachaās, their expense accounts, their kiddie fetishes or their Directorships when they retire, so very few have ever been in it for the actual people.
Rant over
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Itās a lovely ideal but actually far from that, if youāre skilled you can work anywhere anyway, nations will never stop pensioners with hard currency coming into and spending their money anyway, freedom of movement is great but we had that anyway, weāre not in a union with Australia but 1000ās go and live and work there.
What real actual benefits do we the workers actually get that we couldnāt negotiate like others from outside, Europe is a sinking trade ship anyway, we need to let it go, whether we are in Europe or out we are screwed long term.
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
I donāt think Pete is saying he is a racist, I think he is saying if what Fatso is proposing than he is happy to be so, if for instance Fatso is talking bollocks then the claim and statement is false.
Well I donāt want to shit words into papā papās earholes, or whatever it was, but I donāt suppose I have to, because he said what he said. He clearly holds a racist view, but then you know, maybe he credits us with the faculties to understand that racist is not a synonym for evil, and just because he prefers British people, or Isle of Man people, to some other peoples, doesnāt mean heās in favour of gassing jews, or stringing up niggers.
I do think heās wrong tho. I reckon bros who are born in this country are every bit as likely to prove work-shy scroungers, as bros who arrive here covered in their own filth, excrement and 1990s fashions, in the back of articulated lorries.
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Well, firstly, donāt expect me to congratulate you for your honesty about being a racist like everyone seems to have done. It makes you a cunt as far as Iām concerned.
For the record, I would rather not see our country decimated by Muslims or anyone else. Actually, I donāt think thatās happening. I think youāre paranoid. I Find people who talk about a āliberal eliteā to be daft as brushes. What are you on about? What elite do you mean? There is no such thing as the liberal elite.
You say you donāt like foreign freeloaders. This implies that you will tolerate home grown freeloaders? If not, why even use the word āforeignā? Why not just dislike freeloaders? Oh, because youāre a racist arsehole, I forgot. I donāt suppose there is any point providing you with figures about the contribution of migrants to the British economy? Or how the NHS would collapse without the dirty foreign muck who help out?
And youāre right, I have absolutely no tolerance for your concerns or views because they are racist. No one should ever tolerate racist views. They are unacceptable and dangerous.
And what a terrible shame that what started off as a decent bunch of people having a light hearted chat about football and bullshit has become just like every other Saints board out thereā¦with the racists, intolerant and hugely funny people pretending to be other people.
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Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @Bearsy
Originally posted by @unionhotel
My position is that I am a racist.
Not a sentence you hear everyday. I would give i.e. John Terry a lot more credit, if he just come out and said it.
I thought unionhotel being papās pap was like some frm joke that had passed me by, I didnāt think it was 4real. Bet itās nightmare round papās manor at Christmas, when someone mentions politics at the Dinner Table.
I donāt think Pete is saying he is a racist, I think he is saying if what Fatso is proposing than he is happy to be so, if for instance Fatso is talking bollocks then the claim and statement is false.
What was I proposing?
Well, that all got out of hand pretty quicklyā¦
Iām assuming that youāre using the N bomb here in an ironic or attributed way, Bear. It is clear from your post that you are not someone that would routinely use the term āniggerā, so perhaps Iām being oversensitive, but I think it would help if you were to quote it like Iāve done.
As Lou said unionhotel, Iām conflicted.
I think thatās a great response, but I struggle to relate to any of your views.
Can you expand on your apparent admission of being a racist?
Were you using a strict definition that suggests you simply differentiate between races, or as Bear questioned are you in favour of gassing Jews and stringing up āniggersā?
Where on that continuum do you fall?
Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
Well, that all got out of hand pretty quicklyā¦
A racist flame war was just what this place needed!
Originally posted by @saintbletch
Iām assuming that youāre using the N bomb here in an ironic or attrubuted way, Bear. It is clear from your post that you are not someone that would routinely use the term āniggerā, so perhaps Iām being oversensitive, but I think it would help if you were to quote it like Iāve done.
yeah course. Itās just not a word you often get to use, and Iām a big fan of rude words. I thought the context gave me Justification!
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