Itâs the hypocrisy and double standards that really pisses me off. People are being arrested, one of them leaped on by the Police for holding up a blank, white sheet of paper. Police demanded his details, he refused, (unfortunately for the old bill he was a barrister). The copper confirmed that if he wrote Not My King on it he would be arrested under the public order act because somebody might be offended. A woman has been arrested for holding an Abolish Monarchy sign at Charles proclamation ceremony in Edinburgh, nothing to do with the funeral, for âbreach of the peaceâ. She has been charged under a 2010 law that covers behaviour âlikely to cause a reasonable person to suffer fear and alarmâ. Itâs nonsense, an abolish monarchy sign wouldnât cause fear and alarm in anyone, never mind a reasonable person.
For hypocrisy just look at the treatment meted out to Meghan Markle on her walkabout in Windsor. I certainly hold no brief for her, but this hypocrisy needs pointing out. People openly insulting her, turning their backs when she offered her hand, not a policeman in sight. All being roared on by The Mail, Express, Piers Morgan and co, who are all screaming for the republican protesters to be hung drawn and quartered. Yet someone shouts out to the Nonce, âyouâre a sick old manâ (pretty restrained I thought), and heâs smacked down into the pavement, cuffed, led away and has been charged with a breach of the peace.
There is no doubt that the right to protest peacefully is under attack from this extreme right wing Tory government, this is just a sign of things to come. They will not allow any challenge to their Britannia Unchained plan for the country. These are very worrying times, Fascism doesnât come marching in through the front door in Jackboots, it slips in through the back while people are being distracted. The comparisons with 1930s Europe, once dismissed as hyperbole, are becoming harder to ignore.
I agree with this.
But the new Govt is not Brittania Unchained, it is full ERG.
You ainât seen nothing yet
And I agree with this
Oh, come on. It was never put in those terms, very few radio or tv debates after the vote didnât involve remainers either openly blaming the result on xenophobia/racism/bigotry or strongly implying it. There was never anyone saying that âthereâs an element of racism among the general public and some of those will have voted to leave.â Itâs ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
Yes it is but only because a minority is give a platform far in excess of its support by the media
When a papers report that people are outraged or disgusted by a decision, they are not reporting that 100,000 took to streets in protest. They have cut a paste a tweet for some bloke in Cleethorpes with 2 followers
If the media hadnât reported these few protesters then there would have been a lot less harm and a lot less copy cat actions
A little too late?
Ratners
Well they have certainly damaged their brand somewhat - I imagine whoever mooted that idea internally (HR / internal comms) is keeping a low profile
They will be fine - in the same way as P&O ferries are happily shipping punters who parked their rage in favour of a cheap deal
I donât mind giving it a go, but I canât do Tuesdays. 
OK, need to be careful here, but will do my best to remain civil as that Post from Graham Wettone is frankly not only bullshit, but typical of a right wing sentiment and actually uses the same conniving tricks used by right wing âinfluencersâ on a frequent basis.
Lets start with language used.
It suggests society is becoming more entitled and toxic. It suggests the entitlement to protest is somehow wrong. We are entitled to protest no matter what this individual thinks and whatever you think of the timing is irrelevant - protest is often timed to gain the maximum publicity and generate maximum awareness no matter how awkward or âcrassâ it may seem to some.
Second, Its typical of right wing champions to hijack words and concepts that are usually based on creating fairness and countering prejudice and turn them in to ridicule by association with the extreme⌠it happened with Political correctness, and more recently with âwokeâ - concepts designed to challenge prejudices in both institutions and individuals and encourage broader acceptance, yet warped to become synonymous with the ridiculousness of some folks being offended by everything and on others behalf⌠a âjokeâ made out of very human and fair concepts⌠now the same applied to âentitledâ (ironic given how this was often the accusation aimed at the âtoffsâ and elitist governmentâŚ)
Then we have the association with âtoxicâ, another clever way of making a concept more powerful and difficult to defend⌠think of Mary Whitehouse and her campaigns⌠She never talked about there being too much love and sex on the TV, only ever too much sex and violence - looking to get the association between sex and violence ingrained as if you could not have one without the other⌠clever, yet twisted and more difficult to counter in debate
Next is the insinuation that these protesters where only doing it because they were entitled to⌠utter bollocks. They were protesting because of their opinion and in their view it was an appropriate opportunity to do so. They were ABLE to protest (or thought they were) because our laws entitle them to do so - which is what democracy is all about. Its fucking ironic that folks happy to have a go at âremainersâ for their views being anti-democratic seem perfectly comfortable having a go a protesters exercising their democratic rightâŚ
We need to be very careful in this country that we donât stigmatise those exercising these rights whether you agree with their sentiment or appropriateness of their timing or not, it its irrelevant. Graham and all those agreeing, are in effect voicing quite an undemocratic opinion - some who know it and dont care, some who cant even see it, but simply agree, ironically no doubt 'being offended on behalf of the othersâŚbecause these protesters might âupsetâ some folksâŚ
I suggest that many of the older generations who swung the vote in favour of Brexit - do have closet racist tendencies⌠you only need to look at how the Mail readers protest against against anything that is designed to improve fairness for all minorities⌠I will grout on a limb and suggest there are enough folks who have these thoughts to have swung the ref in Brexit favour. That does NOT mean all who voted Brexit are racists, but its does suggest that old fashioned prejudices within the aging population was enough to win it
So what youâre saying is what you said nobody ever said, right? 
Spoons are right on the ball here.
I canât help but feel a tinge of pride in my country 
. âThe Queenâs dead, no shaggingâ
So what you are saying, in a nutshell and paraphrasing, is that people have a right to protest but heâs not allowed to exercise his right to protest about people protesting!
You are not allowed to protest if I disagree with the premise of that protest
I am well aware that can be applied to me
People have the right to protest - I think most people agree with that. Where opinions differ is the manner and timing of those protests
This, in a nutshell, and that is what the bloke is really saying, protest by all means but for pities sake show some respect.
Are we though, as far as I can work out the Royal Estates are paying for the funeral as any profits from these are paid to the government who then mete out 15%-25% of that to the Royals to live on.
So effectively the tax payers arenât paying for the monarchy it is paying for itself.
Nope, look it up - a state funeral is payed for by the state (tax payer), not by the crown
That is not what he was saying - he was implying these folks were protesting only because they were entitled to do soâŚ