šŸ‘‘ šŸ”– The end of the second Elizabethan era

Trevor Sinclair has also done his career in a tweet

ā€œRacism was outlawed in England in the 60ā€™s & its [sic] been allowed to thrive so why should black & brown mourn!! #queen.ā€

Twitter account deleted. Talksport canā€™t get hold of him to no doubt fire his arse

He seems to have form

From Yahoo News

ā€œ Sinclair was previously fired by the BBC in 2018 after being convicted of drink driving and racially abusing a police officer.ā€

American Prof Uja Anya who wished the queen suffer excruciating pain is also in trouble.

She has also doubled down on the tweet

Condemned by her employer Carnegie Mellon and by Jeff Bezos

Jeff Bezos?? So what, you ask, until you realise he is a 7 figure donor to Carnegie Mellon

Faux hysteria is right, faking emotional ties to a complete stranger. Mourning should be a private matter, people only really mourn those they were close to and whose death will have an effect on their lives. I canā€™t mourn and grieve for someone I didnā€™t know, who had no effect on my life. But this is on another level, just look at the wall to wall headlines and hysterical nonsense in the press this morning. We are basically being ordered to obey a period of national mourning, the whole concept of national mourning for a complete stranger is nonsense. Football, the last night of the proms and other events all cancelled as a mark of respect for the deceased Queen, which by definition implies that playing or watching football or listening to music is a show of disrespect. Ridiculous. Her family and friends can mourn and grieve for her, thatā€™s right and proper. Itā€™s not right for the State to exert what amounts to emotional blackmail by instructing the rest of us to pretend.
The scenes outside Buckingham Palace last night and the way it was being reported was surreal, literally thousands of people standing in the pouring driving rain, ā€œclutching each other in an outpouring of griefā€, amazingly a lot of them young people. ā€œI literally thought she would live foreverā€ said one of them, a guy around 30 years old who was sobbing, and plenty more in that vein. These people are indulging in performative and competitive mourning, very reminiscent of the scenes when Diana died. I was on holiday with my wife and kids when that happened, at a camp site in Devon. Groups of people, again mostly young, walking around hugging each other, red eyed and crying, glaring at anyone who had the temerity to carry on with their holiday, playing football, throwing frisbees and the like who werenā€™t indulging in this competitive mourning.This will only escalate over the next ten days if the media and establishment politicians have their way. Indeed Starmer today in the HOC with a prime example of this nonsense, ā€œHer Majesty had a deep personal relationship with every one of usā€, ridiculous claptrap, and from a leader of a so called socialist party.

Oh how we like to point the finger and mock North Korea, China etc who are ordered to behave like sheep, worshipping the Dear Leader. Just one look at todayā€™s press where we are all virtually being ordered to observe a ten day period of mourning for our Dear Leader shows that our country is no better, indeed we are probably worse because we are supposed to be living in a more enlightened society. Itā€™s a sign of an immature and insecure society IMO. Whatever happened to Keep Calm and Carry On! Itā€™s the death of a 96 year old woman, pampered all of her life, who died peacefully in her bed, surrounded by her family, she and them should count their lucky stars. She didnā€™t have to wait 12 hours for an ambulance, then wait in a queue in the back of it for another 12 until a bed was found for her. Some people need to get a grip.

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You donā€™t have to, you know. I havenā€™t seen any of it, been working as normal.

Nobody Iā€™ve come into contact with today has been stricken with grief, although there have been a few passing mentions. As for the idea that you canā€™t feel overly upset about someone you donā€™t know personally, I donā€™t feel upset particularly today. But I did when Markusā€™ death was announced, in fact I was badly upset by that.

Quite right if you donā€™t turn on the telly or want to catch other news on the innerweb or use social media or read a paperā€¦.but apart from that

In real life, apart from the numb-nuts Iā€™ve mentioned in earlier posts nobody else seems grief stricken.

Weirdly though Mrs C_S is a strong Republican and has been avidly watch the tellybox - She says itā€™s about watching an historical moment (and to comment on the sycophants clamoring to spout the correct establishment approved messages)

I think itā€™s mainly a question of whether the person whoā€™s died meant something to you, regardless of whether you actually knew them. In recent years Iā€™ve been upset a the deaths of Leonard Cohen, Toots Hibbert, U-Roy, Bunny Wailer, Lee Perry and others - all of them brought joy and beauty into my life. When the Zim pops his clogs Iā€™ll be devastated.

By that same reckoning, I feel nothing when it comes to the death of the queen. No doubt there are many who feel differently (in fact, there clearly are); presumably they feel that she brought something into their lives that theyā€™ll miss.

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Banknotes?
Coins?
Stamps?

Here is a factoid

On coins the queenā€™s effigy face right. Charlesā€™ will face left

Apparently they alternate the direction for successive monarchs. Been going on since the 1600s

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An historic speech by @Chaz111

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Well, whatever you think about it, sheā€™s right. Thereā€™s no point in trying to downplay the significance of it.

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Yep, the history books will remember it.

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Itā€™s like answering THAT looming question we will all ask ourselves.
The head will scream NO butā€¦

Do I go to London to catch a glimpse of the funeral procession?

It will be a moment in history

An emphatic no from me.

The wonders of the modern age make it unnecessary.

Even the funeral of the Sainted Diana was on the telly. No doubt Iā€™ll watch Liz the same way.

I heard @chaz111 doing his speech to the nation earlier - on the radio, as did a lot of people. That was listening to history wasnā€™t it? Does it make something less so when youā€™re not there?

At the end of the day if someone wants to go and see the cortĆØge for maybe a couple of seconds as it passes while others see the whole event is up to them, as long as other people donā€™t get pelters for not giving a toss.

I would also say as long as those who are ambivalent donā€™t give those people who do want to have those few seconds pelters

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On a lighter note

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Exactly

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Or this

Everyone in the UK today appears to be either an Eddie or a Richie

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Good input thanks!