Wonderful to see those lovely lads from EDL and Britian First out again showing their love for this country by being total and utter racist cunts as usual… rather sadly empowered by recent events - same day that an asylum seeker is nearly beaten to death in Croyden by EIGHT really fucking hard sickening excuses for humanity
So fuck off anyone who is celebrating this day… because whilst these hidious things have always happened, they are now increasing… empowered by the belief that its a ‘fair go’… afterall we voted for all these foreigners to fuck of…
The EU was fucked, yes, yes it has always been a bloated and at time undemocratic institution that irks … but it symbolised a collective belief in some bloody good ideals, yet there are some who seem to be stuck in some self righteous belief that the ‘kick in the teeth for the establishment’ was fantastic and worth it and all this additional aggro with the far right cunts is just a few, a minority which we dont need to worry about and were in no way the minority that tipped the balance…
I aint worried about the fucking economy or whatever - thats fucked anyway, but this country’s lurch to the right, is just pretty sickening… and given the fact the jocks may well at some point fuck off, anyone with a social conscience is likely to be fucked by successive tory shit for a very long tome to come… but hey the fuckwits voted for it …
You see people and not a faith. Hahaha, that’s why you only attack one faith? If religion was really the problem, why do you only demonise Muslims and not the most brutal religion in history?
I can demonise the Catholic faith for having Nazi sympathies if you want, or Jewish illegal land gains if that makes you feel better, most religions are sexist, racist and homophobic, some more than others though, we can talk about the brutality of religion and why the poor, ignorant and lost believe an follow in the main but we’re talking about self willed social exclusion from the main populace by people who choose to believe in a faith that accepts bigotry, you seem to allow it by not questioning it?
I find it abhorant, have you ever asked a religious person these questions, its very funny watching them squirm, in short they can not have their cake and eat it, they adhere or not, thats their choice, yours it would appear is to ignore.
Was speaking with a couple of others about May’s interview with Andrew Neil. First off, fair play to Andrew Neil for giving her a good grilling. Not quite your Paxman, but asked questions repeatedly when she didn’t answer.
As for Theresa May, it’s another unconvincing, often perceivably dishonest or evasive, rarely giving firm answers - at complete variance with some of the policies her government is running.
She looks beleaguered throughout. When the camera focuses on her while Neil is speaking, you see a woman that can barely contain her contempt. When she’s on camera, you can see that she’s working for every single positive facial expression.
She speaks in language that a lot of people don’t understand, and she’s the most waffly PM I’ve seen in a while.
Compare and contrast, peeps. May in all important Brexit ref interview.
Corbs in Peston part stitch-up.
TV debates are going to be a contest between a robot and a human. You can still get 7/1 on Jeremy for next PM. Get yer money on.
Ican demonise the Catholic faith for having Nazi sympathies if you want, or Jewish illegal land gains if that makes you feel better, most religions are sexist, racist and homophobic, some more than others though, we can talk about the brutality of religion and why the poor, ignorant and lost believe an follow in the main but we’re talking about self willed social exclusion from the main populace by people who choose to believe in a faith that accepts bigotry, you seem to allow it by not questioning it?
I find it abhorant, have you ever asked a religious person these questions, its very funny watching them squirm, in short they can not have their cake and eat it, they adhere or not, thats their choice, yours it would appear is to ignore.
But you never do and that’s the issue.
No, it’s not. If you want to discuss the evil(or otherwise) of all religions, ok, start a new thread(it cannot focus on only one). If you want to demonise one and only one, you have a problem.
Corbyn’s biggest stumbling block may not be his media image or policies, it’s the manner in which the country has drifted to the right.
At the last election the people overwhelmingly voted for cuts to the NHS and withdrawal of services for the poorest and most vulnerable.
Mondeo Man now gets his opinions from The Sun and The Mail, he enjoys simple things like Mrs Brown’s Boys, UKIP, binge-drinking, Coldplay, retweeting Britain First, and soap operas - and he’s so set in his ways that he still has a Mondeo.
As we return to a right wing feeling of the 80s, Corbyn may just be the right man at the wrong time.
Only some of the people running the show. Given that these things happened without a great deal of publicity at the time, you can really have a go at adherents for stuff the Holy See did.
or Jewish illegal land gains if that makes you feel better
That doesn’t make me feel any better. You’ve conflated Jewish identity with political zionism.
That’s like saying all English people support the principle of neoliberalism.
In the name of faith, again I see people not a faith, their said faiths are a lie and haven’t been proved, why would someone class themself as a faith as opposed to nationhood is beyond me.
Its not a pick and mix, you adhere or you don’t, I have no doubt miliionsof adherents are homphobic but by the virtue of following their relgion and not questioning dogma they are, this concept isn’t revolutionary, the Nazis following orders for example.
One of the reasons I moved from atheism to agnosticism was my discomfort at the hardline position atheists take. Whatever my beliefs, I can’t tell people, for sure, that theirs are a load of old shite. I found myself asking “who the fuck are you to make that call?”
So I ask, who the fuck are you to make the same call? Especially in the context of the ill-informed rubbish you often post on here.
Your problem is that your obsession with Islam doesn’t go far enough. You stop as soon as you get to the bad bits, and construct a filthy tapestry that stretches from Rochdale to Mecca, via Rotherham. Given that you frequently have a pop at Blair and his New Labour warmongering pals, why is it so difficult for you to join up some of the recent dots?
You’ve also got an incredibly basic, and quite frankly, bordering on dangerous understanding of some political situations, religions or entire regions of the world. Take your statement on the land grabs in Palestine, for example. You defended your statement by claiming that the Jewish faith was driving this, and that’s just not true. Orthodox Jews are often vocal about Palestinian rights, a good percentage of Jewish peeps self-identify as secular Jews. Political zionism was a project to settle a homeland for all of those people flying under that banner. Many wanted nothing to do with it, including many among the faithful.
As you know, I’m not religious, but I thought I’d leave you with a quote.
_Try and separate a man from his soul.
You only strengthen him, and lose your own. Brother Ali _
As much as anything else, it grew out of the Jewish diaspora having to endure centuries of persecution and/or living as second class citizens in certain parts of the world. Wanting a place of their own where they would not suffer simply for being Jewish.
The latter sentiment was obviously hugely amplified by Hitler’s attempt to exterminate European Jewry, the need for somewhere to go if the shit really hit the fan being ever more keenly felt.
This’ll be good.
Why thank you in advance, then. Sir will forgive me if I do not return the sentiment.
