🤝 The Appointment Race

Yes, it would. Not necessarily enough to stay up, but it would at least have given us some sort of chance. The players had given up long before mid season, you could see in every game they knew they were going to get beaten.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think the dogged reluctance to change tack was wholly down to RM. He’s not an idiot, he must have seen it wasn’t working and realised that with the players we had it was never going to. It wouldn’t surprise me if the owners insisted that style was what they’d brought him in for, and in truth you can sort of see that RM might have sold them that vision in the first place so wasn’t in a position to perform a U turn.

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That is nothing ‘new’… plenty of sides have used a rapid attack and ultimately its all just rotating fashions depending on the strengths if players… our ‘endless rotation’ was not part of the style… but a result if playing it in the prem with no quality strikers - afterall it worked fine in the. championship where were arguably lauded as the most entertaining side.

IMHO, its best not to assume ‘latest trend’ is where we should go… its usually just reflective of how the latest winners play, and that usually cant be copied because no one else has those players…

Thing is, I am not really interested in having a ‘fighting chance’ to stay up… would rather just be entertained. Most clubs who are desperate to stay up play a desperate and horrible style of football…

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I want us to get there first

There aren’t many to choose from over recent seasons, it’s become almost inevitable for the promoted clubs to go straight back down, but for pure frantic finance-ignoring throw-the-kitchen-sink-at-it scrabbling to stay up you’ve got to say Forest are the current kings. And I don’t know about you, but I’d rather have been watching their games last season than ours.

Yes but they were more like us when we hot promoted with Nige, and the Poch taking over… a much better squad, flying high etc… half that squad ended up getting sold to top 6 clubs!

Forrest are similar in that sense, but may get lucky and avoid too many sales?

Not really. The squad that got them promoted wasn’t anywhere near good enough for the prem, as I recall it they bought up about two first teams worth of players that season and kept flinging them together in different combinations until they found one that worked just well enough for survival. Breaking every financial rule in the process on the never-never, and worrying about FFP later.

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But that is not something I would have been happy us doing though…

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Were you morally happy with us getting bought by Markus in League 1, and massively outspending everyone else in the EFL to gain two promotions?

Yep, Given the source of funding and that we were correcting the financial mismanagement of the past… it was also within the rules, as opposed to outside FFP

Iirc, we were deducted points before that.

That was for the entering admin under previous administration not for what Marcus spent on meeting the demands of creditors

I know. But it hardly marked us out as bastions of probity and criticise others who break other rules.

I think we paid a price/punishment and rightly so as this meant that following Marcus’s arrival we did things clean, we had no need to feel morally bankrupt as well as having previously been so… clean slate and all that, especially as Marcus paid the creditors (the only major creditor to lose out as I recall was Aviva who with all the interest had already recovered the original loan amount)

So dont think its the same as ignoring FFP rules go try and stay ip

Also, it helped that the bankruptcy removed the “RoI” that Rupert had added to the debts when various tyre kickers looked at the club.
Which included all the fans who had invested a few quid

And allowed the total 30m debt to be negotiated to reduce the amount Marcus needed to spend

Markus Liebherr - Wikipedia.

So quite a discount of between 15 & 17 million

That debt AND the need for investment in the team is what made a lot of yhose old takeover stories seem fishy especially as we now know those crooks that bought Coventry
(SISU)

Lol. I worked at Begbies when the Admin came in. They were the administrators and obviously did an amazing job to find ML. :grin:

Sigh :upside_down_face:

Still in the south unless we change the rules and Winchester can fuck off

I need to appoint a new ball this one is buggered

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More of the same then

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