Indeed, there is a higher percentage of Scots that are now willing to consider independence as an option than voted SNP in any of the last elections - Even the SNP know that their voice post such a decision becomes less important… to some extent similar to UKIP.
I would not necessarily agree with the whole of the UK having a say, given how the impact would be minimal on the rest of Britain, and it would be seen as simply another way in which the Scots could not determine their own future. In effect if the English vote swayed it to leave, then the English could rightly be blamed for any subsequent issues and vice versa - simply would not work
I would have no issue if Scottish MPs only voted on UK wide issues and not on English ones, but that is difficult since not all public spending or decisions are devolved, yet elements of it are only for England etc (or Scotland) and so its never that clear cut. I am sure there is a way of resolving it, but parliament is hardly frothing at the bit to deal with that issue. It comes up in plenty of discussions here and most are perfectly fine with it where decisions have no impact on Scotland
Indeed, part from those elements that the UK parliament agreed would be devolved… and that for what’s left I doubt any Scottish MP or scottish person would be bothered if they dd not vote on any issue that ONLY impacted on England… but Barry is struggling with that…
If the issue is all about sovereignty and self determination the economy will not be such a major issue. If the Germans, French and Italians can give up their currency for a greater cause I’m sure the Scots can lose the pound for a euro if that is the cost of staying in the EU. Cash will soon be a thing of the past as MoT says anyway.
If I were a Scot now I would certainly vote to leave the union even though, as Barry says, it would be a very messy business and a hard border between England and Scotland would be an issue. The post Brexit, post pandemic world is shaping up to be very problematic for the UK.
haha, you do try hard, ill give you that. My personal view on indpendence is not not made up, I voted NO last time out, but that is different from me advocating for the right to have a say given how things have changed… please keep up. Is that transparent enough for you son
I highlighted that if you critique of Sturgeon being that she had wishy washy politics written on a fag packet, then this could be equally applied to Farage, or Boris for that matter… mostly single issue politics. The difference is Sturgeon (SNP) have always been transparent about it…
You also missed the point Soggy and I were making, albeit partly in jest. We seem over obsessed with currency etc, when its highly likely given time there will be a single global currency… even if individual countries continue to use their own for local trade, global trade may well demand a much simpler way…
It would look better than the roUK turning around and saying fuck off you can’t use it like some kid with a football
like all things there will be a transition - we are too tied together to just change over night. Sterling would exist in the short term, the Scots will issue their own currency, probably pegged to the pound in the first instance and then eventually allowed to stand on its own - assuming they don’t go for the Euro.
