The manifesto leak isn’t going to be an issue for Labour. I’ve read the Telegraph summary and they’ve got nothing of note to play with. Most of the stuff mentioned has been talked about before.
In fact, one of the new bits, the requirement that those seeking to come and live and work here need to be able to support themselves, is something that is only going to appeal to the Labour voter concerned about immigration.
The Conservatives had more advantages going into the last election than they do this time around. A charismatic leader that despite the background, had a lot of appeal to middle class and working voters. I have heard of people voting Conservative because they believed Cameron “seemed a decent chap”. He also had the referendum to offer, which some polling firms (polls is shit, yo) reckon could have added a 19 point swing.
This lot just have no swagger, no confidence and no policy ideas. Will they be able to keep it together for the next four weeks?
To be fair to Pap imho Labour are going old skool on their campaign whereas the sound bite distractions of the Tories are for the millennial lack of attention span crew.
Which is amusing.
Fluffy if anything and shows up a lack of Gravitas in most of the political elite class (where have Statesmen/women gone?). Very Tr umpy at the moment.
I don’t think it’s sustainable in UK though as outside the TOWIE set Brits aren’t like US Rednecks
If it stays fluffy instead of educated it will just feed the lack of respect public have for politicians globally.
Someone has to stop car crashes and show wisdom
(They won’t imho but that’s the cynical expat view)
You know that I’ve always considered myself extremely lucky to have fallen into what I do, in terms of profession and renumeration.
Since going into my chosen field, I’ve never dreaded going into work. After I went freelance, I’ve never really had to worry about paying bills.
Besides, whatever we end up losing in tax we’re likely to gain in rate increases. Wages always rise when the labour market contracts and we already work in a demanded sector.
Not all are as fortunate, including a lot of the people that I love. With no desire to play the hero, I give thousands away each year to family members, including people I haven’t had a hand in creating.
It’s always gratefully received, but it’s never enough. My kid is still going to emerge from University with that tuition fee debt around her neck. The fortunes of other people I’m helping look to be getting bleaker, not better, especially with the threats to pensions (both rises and retirement age).
We’ve done forty years of this neo-liberalism lark, Cherts. If we’re down 10k a year (which I severely doubt) there’s every chance that initiatives elsewhere are going to reduce our respective burdens.
I agree that their schtick is aimed at those with a short attention span, but millennials are very much in Labour’s camp. Why wouldn’t they be? The under 25s have been treated disgracefully by this government. No help for housing, contributing to homelessness doubling in six years.
Duckie, the Telegraph is a nazi paper and the reason the press is right wing is because of who owns them, you fucking hypocritical plum. Isn’t the Guardian the most popular online paper?
You keep believing what you’re told to believe, They keep it simple for the simple after all. Ever wondered where that tactic comes from? Here’s a clue.
Nazism permeated through single words, idioms and sentence structures which were imposed inamillion repetitions.
Read Victor Klemperer, then come back and apologise to everyone you have abused.
Not mine. Tell me where I will recoup that money. And with Brexit we’ll see a big increase in supply of labour, especially in London, as businesses move out. Add an increased 6% corporation tax and businesses will be flocking out.
I paid £31k in corporation tax last year, so I guess it’s just under £10k, but sorry that’s ridiculous. Add to that the increase to tax for those earning over £80k per year, and that’s another £4k out of mine and the Missus pockets. My kids are 4 and 3 months, so by the time they go to University the fees will be back again.
Soundbites work though, @saint-or-sinner . I’m personally glad that Labour is now going with “For the many, not the few”.
We typically get around 70% of the electorate turning out for General Elections. With that sort of percentage turning out, there’s no way that everyone is going to be invested in the issues.
The Tories know this, which is why they’ve always tried to avoid talking about the substance of issues, concentrating on playing on people’s fears and perceptions.
Where will this London labour come from post-Brexit? The Tories are talking about crashing down the drawbridge. Labour are going to require that people are able to support themselves. Given that most Londoners have difficulty doing that, any prospective capital immigrant is probably not going to be after minimum wage work.
Where will these companies migrate to? I know Macron has said he wants our bankers (he’s welcome to the cunts, imo) but if they choose to set up near the Seine, they’ll be paying 33% corporation tax. Germany is 22%, but comes with all kinds of strings, not least the onerous IT legislation that all German companies need to adhere to.
I paid £31k in corporation tax last year, so I guess it’s just under £10k, but sorry that’s ridiculous. Add to that the increase to tax for those earning over £80k per year, and that’s another £4k out of mine and the Missus pockets. My kids are 4 and 3 months, so by the time they go to University the fees will be back again.
Good points. Maybe if i keep posting it the stupid will eventually take it on board.
“Instead Nazism permeated the flesh and blood of the people through single words, idioms and sentence structures which were imposed on them inamillion repetitions and taken on board mechanically and unconsciously.”
Klemperers book really is an eye opener(probably the best thing written about how the nazis took ultimate power by poisoning peoples minds) and it’s amazing that all this time has passed, but the fascists still get away with it. How stupid are people?
On radio the labour bro was saying we would get to keep the Profits that would naturally arise from operating State Railway, so you have to factor that in.
I have just found it - they will wait till the franchises lapse and freeze fares - no upfront costs but an increasing burden as the costs of running the services increase (public pay cap removed for example)
That’s a multi-part question, but it’s not as if the railways are cost neutral now. We pay our tax money every month to subsidise the infrastructure. The only thing we’re getting back is franchise fees. It’s your classic case of socialism for the rich.
So we’ll lose out on franchise fees, and we’ll be responsible for purchasing rolling stock. We’ll gain ticket prices, will still be paying for the infrastructure (as we do now).
I also don’t buy the right wing premise that nationalised industries don’t work. Right now, our former nationalised industries are propping up state owned firms in Germany, France and elsewhere.
Southern Rail’s owners reported 100m profit last November. Given those kinds of sums, there’s shitloads of wriggle room, especially when you consider that the East Coast franchise did very well when renationalised for a time.
Don’t forget the huge profits being taken out at the moment. That’s going to cover some of the burden(no idea how much). Then look at Eastern(i think), they were brought back under national ownership because private was destroying the service in the chase for profits and made over billion profit in 5 years. Unfortunately some greedy fuckers sold them again.
