The 2017 Election Thread

Agree…I think the last legal New Forest fox hunt returned a count 6 foxes despatched by the hounds during the season. How is that an effective control of the fox population?

It’s a total absurdity to tout fox hunting as an effective control, whilst in reality it’s a rich, fat bastard’s inhumane “sport”

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Sounds like Angela rayner has just had a “numbers moment” with the same dude that made Diane Abott look daft.

Would you rather be a contestant on the Running Man or have one to the head when you weren’t knowing it was going to happen?

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Oh dear God, another one?

Wow, are Labour trying their hardest to look incompetent?

Clearly Running Man ain’t it. Give me a Fighting Chance, that is all I ask!

Labour has been accused of making up policies “on the hoof” after Angela Rayner was embroiled in a number mix-up in a radio interview with Nick Ferrari, wholast week skewered Diane Abbott in a similar policy confusion.

The shadow Education Secretary was promoting Labour’s education pledge on LBC - but couldn’t say how many children it would affect.

One of their policies is to ensure that no pupil is in a class bigger than 30 children.

When Mr Ferrari asked “how important” this policy was, and how many children it would affect, she was unable to answer.

He asked: “how many children are in classes that size?”

Dodging the question, she said it would affect a “significant number”.

She said: “Well, it’s different, there’s variants in terms of class sizes over 30. And there’s even some that are over 40 to be honest with you.”

When pressed for an answer, she said she “didn’t have the numbers”.

Ms Rayner answered: “There’s quite a substantial amount of pupils that are affected. I haven’t got the numbers on me to hand, but it is quite a substantial amount of children that are in class sizes that are over 30.”

Frustrated, Mr Ferrari asked: "Do you not think it would be a good idea to have a sense of how many people you’re talking about.

"You are the Shadow Education Secretary. One of your key pledges is to try to reduce class sizes, which will really resonate with my listeners for 4, 5, 6 and 7-year-olds.

“I’m asking you how many this will affect and all you can tell me is it is a substantial number?”

It turned out Nick Ferrari, the radio presenter, was able to find the number himself, and informed the shadow Education Secretary how many children her policy would affect.

The class size policy would affect 520,445 primary school pupils in England.

Mr Ferrari said: "Don’t you think it’s rather strange that it’s left to journalists to inform the Labour Party of the number?

“Do you not think you should have had that number?”

Rattled, Ms Rayner replied: "It is. Well, I told you it’s a sizeable chunk, Nick.

“I’m not going to try and play that numbers game with you and pluck that out of the air”.

Mr Ferrari said that Labour were unable to answer basic questions about flagship policies and that they appear to have been made up “on the hoof”.

Last week, on Nick Ferrari’s LBC show, Diane Abbott gave a car-crash interviewas it appeared she did not have the numbers to back up her policy announcement.

She said Labour would put more police officers on the streets - but could not lay out how many or how much they would be paid.

She insisted she knew the figures, saying “I can repeat them now!”. However, she did not then repeat them.

In the LBC interview, she suggested that Labour would hire 10,000 officers for £300,000, which would would have left officers earning £30 a year.

Ms Abbott’sassessment of how many new officerswould be recruited in one year ranged from 25,000 to 250,000.

Employ 17,348 more teachers and build 2081 new primary schools to accomodate them, and we will have this problem Sorted.

If someone gave you a choice between being shot in the head or chased for miles by a pack of dogs and then ripped to pieces alive then I’m pretty sure you’d choose the former - you’re not that weird are you Bear?

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I’m starting to feel At Odds with the frm. I don’t like it! This is what Barry must feel like Every Day. But yeah, I’d totally take the sprint. I get a head start, don’t I? I like my odds. I back myself.

Scratch that, just read your reply to Barry… turns out you are that weird!

Maybe rather than repealing the ban we can offer posh people the chance to hunt you - I’m sure in their heart of hearts they’d rather it was a person instead of a fox anyway - win win!

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The less people running around the countryside, stumbling into suspicious holes and discovering things that they shouldn’t, the better.

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Exactly. It’s easy making up policies when you have no interest in the actual cost of it.

That’s just primary schools. What about middle and upper schools (do they still exist??)

There has been a vote and there was a vote to ban it (although it isnt very well upheld). If anything there should be an outcry by the lack of prosectutions for illegal hunts. I dont see a huge outcry for a repeal other than from those with a vested interest. So why the need fo another debate and vote? Still, she has done herself no favours as this will backfire on her bigtime.

Quite right. You must be really pissed off with “team Theresa”.

The daily heil are calling her husband Mr Theresa on their front page. Someone remind them it’s not a presidential election and he has his own name.

No more abuse of Corbyn then? Would be a bit hypocritical, wouldn’t it.

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Whether it is a “priority” or note, she plans to spend Parliamentary time on a subject that has already been voted on. Arent the Remainers told every day to shut up and accept the Brexit vote? Well how about the pro fox hunting brigade also shut up and accept the vote?

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Absolutely. Far better just to completely avoid the question if you can.

They will sing songs about this glorious Victory… (As Worf would say)

While the world debates the Running Man vs Logans Run Labour try and talk about ACTUAL policies.

Lets face it, it hasn’t been Rocket Science - Cambridge Analytics (oops sorry the Tory Campaign Team) looked at Labour and said.

This shower couldn’t even get rid of the Designated Survivor (oops sorry Jezza), - “we don’t need to do a damn thing they’ll just keep digging that hole”.

What next for the Tories?

Gotta be the Ice Caps or something

Parliament has a limited amount of time to create or repeal legislation. If May is offering a free vote, she’s devoting Parliamentary time to it, therefore it’s a priority.

This is not my “say so”. This is how Parliament works.