Said core vote used to be the bread and butter of the Labour party, the Southern Labour party didn’t listen nor house immigrants, asylum seekers anywhere near them and told, the ones affected (the poorest in society and in the poorest areas in the Country) were told to accept it as its the right thing to do (by London Labour who surprisingly didn’t accept or take many in).
They then didn’t listen to the rumblings and were told by Northern Labour officials its a ticking timebomb and they’ll lose many votes to UKIP in upcoming elections.
They did and now Brexit has happened they’ve dropped UKIP like they’ve dropped Labour so now we have an awful lot of Northern voters without any party in which they feel they belong, they certainly don’t belong to Southern Labour as they don’t listen and are on a different planet to the rest of us outside the London bubble.
I did say it a long long time ago, Southern labour doesn’t reflect the North, it doesn’t get the North.
lets ignore all elections, political parties, manifestos, politicians, fuck twitter warriors and just agree to not be cunts. I’m currently looking for a stress free life which pays enough to get by. Well that’s a bit of a lie, I’m looking for such a job once I’m mortgage free. I couldn’t give a fuck anymore about who is in charge. They’re all cunts and they’re all useless. There is only disappointment ahead. I’m ignoring politics and anything that I’m meant to give a shit about. I’m looking forward to being a postman soon.
Politics has become so divisive and angry. I’m sure nost people on this site have good intentions, we just differ on the best way to implement these things,
But it wasn’t Labour placing asylum seekers in poor places recently is it? The number of asylum claimants decreased from 2003 -2010 but increased after 2010. Apparently they make up a smaller share of net migration than they did in the 90s and early 2000s. We took 3% of asylum seekers claiming in Europe recently. 9 out of 10 refugees are in developing countries so we are receiving very few. It’s a shame that the media have whipped up such awful rhetoric that we cannot support people seeking asylum without suspicion and hate. They will be placed in the cheapest places by the Home Office (guess who is currently in charge of them). People would be up in arms if we were spending millions on accommodation in Mayfair to house asylum seekers. They cannot work so would not be taking any jobs in the local area but I conceed they’d probably have a room in a shared house that someone local may want.
It’s a shame the media has whipped up such hatred for people trying to seek support and help.
Immigrants aren’t placed anywhere. They go and live where they can afford and where there is work. I live in one of the most expensive places in the UK. That awful London. There’s plenty of immigrants here. But people seem to still vote Labour. In my borough about 75% of the population are not White British. The creeping gentrification may change that.
So Barry from the North. What have you been doing to sort the North - South divide in the party? Rather than moaning about it on line?
What can I do? Stated to local activists today this has come about as we weren’t listened to, they just shrugged and wanted to talk about the Everton game.
Good, bold policy from Corbyn here. £80k is the top 6% of earners in the UK. This idea that you’re going to be able to collect some kind of a 50% wealth tax from the 0.0001% is pie-in-the-sky. You want high tax and spend? Well, this is the income bracket that you need to target.
Shame he’s for banning ZHCs though as most people on them appreciate the flexibility, they just want higher pay (and to not be taxed more the more you work on an hourly rate)
80k is over three times the average wage. It’s good politics.
I’d stop drinking the Kool Aid on zero hours contracts. Who is this “most” you refer to? Even the biggest defenders of ZHC say _some _people prefer them.
ZHC are in fact a blight for _most _workers, setting as they do, no security whatsoever. Doesn’t just affect people on ZHC - it’s the sort of decision that ripples through the employment market, weakening rights in and of itself, eventually diluting other types of work too.
Watching the street interviews recently it is very dispiriting to see how many people arent listening to the policies and are just forming a view based on perceived personalities. The strong and stable leadership mantra is being swallowed hook line and sinker by many. Farage has had more success than he can ever of dreamed of.
Why are you surprised? For so long now People have fallen out of love with Politics because they all lie. Manifesto promises are never kept in their entirety anyway. (Lib Dems & students anyone?)
Why WOULD anyone look at policies, we all know they are a crock of shit anyway.
Not encouraging in the least Phil. Surely the whole point of a Government is that they set out their stall in their manifesto and then are judged at the next election on how well they have delivered. To give you vote to “strong and stable leadership” is as pointless as voting for someone who says he will “make America great again.” Fantastic! But how exactly?
Whatever you think of Corbyn, he is talking about policies. Those are something you can debate and think about. Which is more than can be said for a fucking stupid soundbite.
Burn the lot of them I say - every single one of the ruling elite witches. Anyone who wants to stand for office should be banned from standing.
Benevolent Dictatorships are one way forwards.
Joking apart, the SINGLE greatest fear I have for the future (of my Grandson) is how badly Politicians have fucked up Politics, and how so much of the world now holds so many of them in contempt.
Where we do get a “Populist” leader such as Duerte in Philippines, the system pushes back so hard to undermine him.
I agree Corbyn IS a Labour Evangelist and honest in that. But I also believe that the cunt with a bell would be as equally incompetent and unelectable as a Leader of the UK as Jezza is
It seems to me that there’s a level of confusion about what is meant by a zero hours contract. Some people seem to think that it’s a contract under which an employee is not guaranteed any hours, but is able to do what the hell they like if they’re not given any hours. In other words, they’ll be able to do other paid work, go out and get hammered - whatever. I don’t see any problem with a contract of that sort, and neither, as far as I know, does the Labour party.
However, that is most definitely not what I would understand by the term zero hours contract. In a ZHC, the employee is contracted to be available for work between set hours, but guaranteed no actual working hours. There is no flexibility in this, as the employee has to be available for work for all the hours that the contract covers. Hence, they can’t do other work, or anything much else, as they may be called into work at any time - and their contract stipulates that they must be available. A contract of this type gives nothing to the employee and everything to the employer. And this is the type off contract that Labour plans to ban.
I strongly suspect that those who claim to like the flexibillity offered by ZHCs are employed on the former basis. Certainly, I find if impossible to see what flexibility anyone could enjoy from the latter.
This is why anyone with half a brain can see that Corbyn is unelectable. I have no problem with his policies but the majority of the population don’t give a shit about policies. They give a shit about how Corbyn presents himself. And how he presents himself is not what they want to see.
Still, the hard left have got their claws back into ‘their’ Labour Party and they won’t be giving up without a fight. We’ve got at least another 5 years of right wing rule ahead of us.
