You sure know how to get nasty when youāre threatened, Pap.
Easy solution: Iām now not taking a break. Happy days.
Fuck me.
Originally posted by @Coxford_lou
You sure know how to get nasty when youāre threatened, Pap.
Donāt know how you arrived at either the nasty or threatened conclusions. If you donāt feel that the above is an accurate representation of events, youāre free to argue your position.
I havenāt called you anything, never said you were anything. All I did was describe a pattern of behaviour that Iāve seen before, saw again, and want to nip in the bud.
Whether you consider it nasty or not, announcing that youāre ignoring the whole site is a fairly accurate description of the olā threat-to-not-post.
Easy solution: Iām now not taking a break. Happy days.
Fuck me.
Reminds me of this.
Melchett:
Exactly! And that is what is so brilliant about it! It will catch the watchful Hun totally off guard! Doing precisely what weāve done eighteen times before is exactly the last thing theyāll expect us to do this time!
Itās kicking off again. Itās a bit awkward, isnāt it?
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Yeah, sorry about that, Fatso! Iām actually really quite pissed off, but I havenāt yet decided if best to express my fuckedoffness in another cringeworthy post, that makes the forum feel further awkwardness, or save it for a face to face conversation, which generally speaking is less of a cowardly option, and usually has a more constructive outcome. Iāll think Iāll go practice āWildwood Flowerā a couple more times, brew on the conundrum a bit further, and then get bored with the problem and not do anything. Anything to ādisappointā Pap a bit furtherā¦
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Oh, and by the way, while Iām here - I started this thread, but I didnāt add the meta tags. The situation in Syria has nothing to do with the āwar on terrorā. So can you remove it, as its misstating the purpose of this thread, and adding a political spin that is not helpful.
Thank you.
Enjoying the blog Lou.
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It is, but my hope is that short term pain is going to lead to a better long-term situation. That conversation, or one quite like it, has been in the pump for first punter that ordered it for some time. Lou just happened to order the Special Reserve.
I am very fond of Lou, and if you think I wrote or retained any of those posts lightly, you are mistaken. I know that is wasnāt received well by Lou; I honestly didnāt expect it to be, but at the same time, phasers were very much set to stun, not destroy. I hope she stays around, just as I hope she and everyone else understands I am never going to be moved by such appeals again.
This really isnāt a āmy way or the highwayā thing either. I am extremely conscious and actually quite uncomfortable with the way my part in this venture is perceived. I donāt like āpapswebā as moniker, and long-term, I want to be able to hand it to a couple of people and say āHey! Sotonians is yours to run for a yearā and the bastards can deal with me.
For right now though, Iāve got to secure the revolution, which means I have to deal with the idea that Iām still on papsweb, and that it looks fucking shit when pap is having a go at his own web, particularly a beloved senior poster. If you think I liked any part of that, or thought it was going to make me look in any way better youāre wrong. Didnāt like doing it. Especially didnāt like doing it to Lou. I am not going to say I got the implementation 100% right.
The sentiment behind it is spot on.
Week one, I said I didnāt want this to be a place where debate was shut down because people are offended. We have never run a swear filter, the only threads that have ever been locked were obvious trolling or unnecessary duplicates. Five weeks after Furball joined, Iām being pulled up on deviations from my own beliefs, and have to reluctantly concede that yes, in the spirit of free speech, he could call me whatever the fuck he liked. The _putting the whole site on ignore _applies just as much to him as it does to Lou, or anyone else that uses membership as a point in a debate, and thatās the thing I most despise, and hereās why.
Incidents like these aside, this site has developed into a lovely little thing with some strong and burgeoning relationships. The idea that someone is willing to abandon those interactions, at least on here, because they do not agree with what a couple of posters are saying offends me for two reasons. First, why deprive others of your company because of a disagreement with a few, or even the one? Second, why proceed from the assumption that the mods here are incapable of sorting it out?
Iām not dragging bletch into this, btw. The above is my personal opinion, and the reasons for my personal actions. As I said before, not 100% sure on implementation, but my heart is coming from the right place on this, and Iāll do it again if I see it again, probably fucking up just as much.
Iām new at this FFS. Show me a better forum runner with nine monthās experience that happens to be afflicted with āgobby little cuntā, and Iāll buy you beers for the evening.
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Thereās nowt sinister - people donāt routinely tag stuff - I go in after the fact to make sure stuff has some tagging for a bit of future proofing and coherence.
I disagree with your conclusions but am happy to acquiesce to the request. For future reference for everybody, you can always edit your own OP and remove tags.
I feel like Iāve just had the ātalkā from John McDonnell with Corbyn somewhere lurking in the shadows.
Seriously, Pap - stop. Quit summarising my behaviour (and getting it wrong). Quit telling me how I should behave. And quit telling me what to do. Iām the wrong person to be messing with on this. Really.
You can post whatever you like or do whatever you like, and youāre free to take on or dismiss my points as you see fit.
Iām not telling you what to do.
I could well be guilty of summarising behaviour, but weāll never know where I went wrong if we fixate on the Labour leadership by way of explanation.
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Word. Iām taking a break.
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Ok guys. This is all a bit meta. Talk about simmering sexual tension.
I suggest you move it to PM. Unless either of you thinks that itās important to have this discussion in public?
From my perspectiveā¦(please read to the end before forming any Bletch is a twat - you may, of course, already reached that conclusion outside of this post)
I know where pap is coming from.
He feels (and I totally agree) that when folks threaten to stay away from the forum due to the content on here, it holds the forum to ransom in some way. And long-term, that cannot be allowed to happen.
Why doesnāt that person jump in a fix the content with debate?
Why doesnāt that person simply stop posting?
Why the threat to disappear?
Why the implication of āyou drove me to thisā?
As Iāve been reminded recently, I once saidā¦ādebate or fuck offā. Iām not totally proud of that, but at the highest level, it probably holds.
Iām guessing where Lou is coming from. Never a healthy position. Butā¦
Iād hazard a guess that, as she started this thread, and it was clearly intended to discuss the Syrian humanitarian issue and specifically to be a counter-point to similar threads that contained (from her perspective) the confused/conspiracy position that Russia was in some way helping the situation.
Now this thread has started to become all that it was created to not be, sheās frustrated. Iād feel the same way.
She also sees the tags on the thread as having been changed to something that didnāt represent her intention so sheās doubly frustrated.
Sheās also in Texas - miles from Bucks so sheās triply frustrated.
I suspect that given the fact that sheās trying to find Texans to fuck, or twin sisters to take back to her hotel room to Skype me, sorry, bear, she probably feels that she hasnāt got the time or energy to fix this thread.
Iām guessing this led to the reaction to stay away.
Lou, we love you. Donāt leave. Please stay and debate, or ignore us and fuck Texans until you have time to rip the twats to shreds. Please.
pap, we hate you. Please leave.
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You had it spot on in that third paragraph, Bletch.
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And if it helps at at all to guide the thread back to the original topic, I was in a refugee camp in France yesterday and met quite a few people who have fled Syria and surrounding area for a variety of reasons.
It was an interesting experienceā¦
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Fuck sake, did my couple of posts really just start intercine Forum War? 
Firstly, my apologies if that is the case, and my posts have distracted the topic from its original intent. Certainly not my intention.
From my perspective, rather than just jump into a topic, I had put in the effort to read through all eleven pages that were there at that time, and felt I was addressing points that I had indeed seen referenced during the conversation. I had seen āspeculationsā in here as to whether it was actually the Assad government that was responsibile ā and felt that my own actual knowledge on that subject (from much experience dealing with humanitarian issues surrounding Syria) may actually help to shed some light on the truth of that situation.
I was very careful to (in my view) _over-_emphasise the fact that I was sharing a personal experience and not trying to āproveā anything, and also went out of my way to indicate that I certainly was not expecting to necessarily be universally believed. But I felt I had a valuable insight that was worth sharing.
If that has ended up causing longstanding members to come to verbal blows and threaten not to post anymore, I must confess that I am pretty well flabbergasted at such an outcome ā but also sorry for my part if that is indeed the case.
I saw an area that I felt I could actually contribute some points of interest, and saw nothing (or perhaps missed the mention of it?) running through the thread that only certain kinds of postings were welcome in the topic.
Iām quite shocked actually to come back to the thread tonight and see what has followed, lol. Not sure whether to just quietly vacate the topic ā or grab a bag of popcorn. 
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I only said I was taking a break. And technically speaking, I was already on one. 
Your summary is 70% on the money Bletch. But I have zero desire to continue the conversation.
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Sounds interesting, RB. Tell us moreā¦
No apology necessary, Jack. And donāt let it out you offā¦ 
Triplet sisters?
Originally posted by @saintbletch
Originally posted by @Coxford_lou
I only said I was taking a break. And technically speaking, I was already on one.
Your summary is 70% on the money Bletch. But I have zero desire to continue the conversation.
Triplet sisters?
Commonly known as a six shooter.
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