I was dubious about the origin of the chemical weapons attack at the time. Even with the hindsight available then, there was a real Chekovās gun element to the red line of using chemical weapons. Assad was winning at the time, and chemical weapons were the one red line that would guarantee the Western intervention he did not want.
So, what did he do? According to our media, he took the stupidest possible choice available to him at the time.
Originally posted by @Fatso
Is Jack Schitt actually James Bond?
Unless James has suddenly become a boring cunt lacking in charisma, and come to the revelation that Martini is for girls, then Iād suggest your comparison a little wide of the mark. 
Ahhā¦ Cleverā¦i do find Bond incredibly dull and have always thought that his endless pursuit of women was a poorly judged disguise for his homosexuality (and Martini drinking). So, reading between the linesā¦say no more. 
Wow, Jack Schitt, that really does take it to a whole new level.
As long as you can trust what he says. Who isJack Schitt? Heās a relative newcomer to these parts. I need some firm evidence that his claims can be trusted.
As in heās on a wind up?
Oh god, I think my head will explode if we have an āironicā conspiracy theorist on this thead. I canāt take it! Not on the Syria threadā¦ I hand in my resignation!
I thought Jack Schitt might be Sherlock (ie. no shit, Sherlock).
Iām not saying I donāt trust him, just that there is no one in the world I trust other than myself. So actually, what Iām saying is that I donāt trust him. But thatās not a slight on Jack Schitt, more a comment on my distrust of people. What Iām saying is that youāre all bullshitters.
I trust Fatso.
You poor, naive girl.
Amnesty: Russia guilty of Syria war crimes
http://news.sky.com/story/1645573/russia-guilty-of-syria-war-crimes-says-amnesty
Originally posted by @Fatso
As long as you can trust what he says. Who is Jack Schitt? Heās a relative newcomer to these parts. I need some firm evidence that his claims can be trusted.
Exactly. Jack Schitt is no-one. And as I said, I certainly have no expectations of being blindly believed.
You should never believe something, just because someone is telling you it is true. Whether it is from some random shitty nutjob on an internet forum, a talking head on your television, or a government minister in a nice smart suit spouting an avalanche of bullshit propaganda.
The point is, to always think for ourselves, do our own research, and never simply accept anothers truth for your own, no matter how widely believed it may be.
Tony Bliar and George W Cuntox told us all that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. It turns out that the actual FACTS were rather different ā i.e. there were not any (as proved by amongst many other documents, the infamous Downing Street Memo). However not only that, but rather that they actually colluded to invent the ruse to justify their pre-planned invasion.
They wanted to invade the country to bring about regime change, and āspread their ādemocracyā and āwestern freedomsāā (read that - steal their natural resources and install a western-friendly puppet-regime) ā so they concocted a lie to sell their sick shit to a gullible people who simply lap up whatever theyāre told by the press and the plasma screen, as it is so much easier than taking a personal interest and thinking and investigating truth for ourselves.
Iraq wasnāt a once off kind of thing. It has been occurring since time immemorial.
So no. I have no evidence for you. But I do desire to offer an insight into what I have personally seen, in the faint hope that it may inspire others to look beyond the fabricated surface of slick media presentations, and ask questions.
Years upon untold years of evidence exists for governments doing exactly this, in the form of discretely de-classified documents. I am clearly not āprovingā anything to anyone in my earlier post. But they have not suddenly changed their ways, and stopped doing these things. I doubt you can imagine how frustrating it is, to know about some of the sick shit I have seen, and be unable to do or say anything. Itās nothing like an Edward Snowden type situation where I have access to documents I can run away with and leak. I simply see things from time to time during my work, that I am contractually bound not to disclose details of. And even if I did, and managed to do so anonymously ā who can I tell that will actually raise the questions in a prominent public domain? The media is a gutless official mouthpiece.
I purposely restrict myself from posting in public forums on the whole. Only on a private politicaly inclined darknet, occasionally TSW, and now here. For precisely the reasons that when I do engage with people, occasionally when I sit and read another topic on the same thing, that frustration bursts out, and I simply have to speak of the truth I have seen, regardless of how I may be perceived for doing so. Itās like popping the valve to let out some steam and ease the internal pressure. As long as Iām careful not to be specific and name names, it helps to retain my own sanity, even if what I speak about may portray the opposite to some, lol.
Chris Hedges said:
"Privilege and power, especially military power, is a dangerous narcotic. Violence destroys those who bear the brunt of its force, but also those who try to use it to become gods.
We have become monsters, militarized bullies, heartless and savage. We are a party to human slaughter, a flagrant war crime, and do nothing. We forget that the innocents who suffer and die, are a reflection of ourselves, of how we might have been should fate and time and geography have made the circumstances of our birth different. We forget that we are all absurd and vulnerable creatures. We all have the capacity to fear and hate and love.
I love that dude. He speaks truth right in the face of that power structure.
Originally posted by @Coxford_lou
Originally posted by @Fatso
As long as you can trust what he says. Who isJack Schitt? Heās a relative newcomer to these parts. I need some firm evidence that his claims can be trusted.
As in heās on a wind up?
Oh god, I think my head will explode if we have an āironicā conspiracy theorist on this thead. I canāt take it! Not on the Syria threadā¦ I hand in my resignation!
I thought Jack Schitt might be Sherlock (ie. no shit, Sherlock).
No Lou. Iām not on a wind up. Just freely offering my own unique perspective on something I have seen personally, yet cannot prove.
And no, Sherlock was a well known multi-post member. I am a very low post-count insignificant TSW member, who rarely posts there, and all but about one person here would probably even recognise my username.
Originally posted by @Jack-Schitt
Originally posted by @Fatso
As long as you can trust what he says. Who is Jack Schitt? Heās a relative newcomer to these parts. I need some firm evidence that his claims can be trusted.
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You should never believe something, just because someone is telling you it is true. Whether it is from some random shitty nutjob on an Internet forum
Hey now. Pap was spent a lot of time and effort getting this forum up and running and doesnāt need this sort of slight on his character from the likes of you, James Bond or whoever you are.
Hey Jack, you seem a nice guy, and Iām in a happy place right now. But your views on this makes me feel quite angry - weāre witnessing one of the biggest atrocities of recent times. A government, and now Russian allies, bombing itās own population day on day on day on day. Yet youāre rambling on about USA conspiracy theories. Iām not sure how black and white this situation could be before people take it on face value.
I donāt like feeling angry, I like liking people. So Iām gonna bail for a bit. Itās stuff like this that always makes me an uncomfortable participant of this site.
Sherlock had me sussed, though not in the way he thought.
Disappointing, and genuinely not the first time Iāve experienced such disappointment.
I would suggest that you use your time away reflecting on how continually running away from a point, and by implication, casting aspersions on the site, diminishes your overall effectiveness in future points.
I have been very pleased with the standard of debate on the site recently, and while I canāt fully get onboard with what Barry is going on about, and havenāt really fully engaged with the Schitt That Jack Wrote, I donāt agree with the tactic youāve employed here. Never did.
If you canāt answer another posterās points, do the honourable thing and slink off silently, returning when youāre happier. The sanctimonious āI canāt be hereā emotional blackmail is getting a little tiresome.
Originally posted by @Coxford_lou
Hey Jack, you seem a nice guy, and Iām in a happy place right now.
Like most human beings Lou, I am capable of the whole range of human behaviours and emotions.
I can be very nice, and I can also be a complete cunt, when the need arises.
Originally posted by Coxford_lou
But your views on this makes me feel quite angry -
This is the difficult thing for me. As for myself, it is not simply āmy viewā we are talking about. But rather an actual fact that I have personally witnessed. And yet without proof, as you imply, for others, it is simply another āopinionā.
I can do nothing but accept this. Which is why I so very rarely ever choose to engage with others on forums, and generally just prefer to read, than get involved. Life is soo much easier, when I just shut the fuck up. 
Only just every so often, I find that I cannot.
Originally posted by Coxford_lou
weāre witnessing one of the biggest atrocities of recent times. A government, and now Russian allies, bombing itās own population day on day on day on day.
The only rhetorical question I would put to you Lou, is ā what is the source of the information you trust to provide you with an honest and accurate account of what is truly occurring out there, and, from whose perspective is it being conveyed? I do not dispute that Assadās Government Forces and Russian planes have caused civilian casualties in Syria. I do however suggest that this is far from the whole story.
Originally posted by Coxford_lou
Yet youāre rambling on about USA conspiracy theories.
Haha. I guess that is one way of framing the information I offered.
It is simply a far too convenient narrative, to lay all of the blame for the abysmal humanitarian clusterfuck in Sovereign Syria on the current actions of Syrian or Russian Forces. We (Western Military-Intelligence Powers) effectively started the fire. Since then we have spent the last few years standing quietly off-stage, wafting a massive fucking fan at the flames, whilst pouring fuel and arms into the raging inferno.
Originally posted by Coxford_lou
I donāt like feeling angry, I like liking people. So Iām gonna bail for a bit. Itās stuff like this that always makes me an uncomfortable participant of this site.
No problem Lou. I respect your free will to disengage. 
As I say, I usually take that route myself. I find it is much easier to not speak of things I have seen, and many people find me to be much less of a cunt that way, for not disturbing their comfortable equilibrium.
Anyway, probably best I go and pour myself another nice cold mug of shut the fuck up. 
āDisappointedā āsanctimoniousā āemotional blackmailā. Jesus fuck, Pap. With all due respect, you can go stick your ādisappointmentā up your arse.
Jack, appreciate your response. But like you say, Iām disengaging. Bur I wouldnāt let that put you off posting, thereās plenty appreciation for your point of view on here.
Posts like this make me chuckle, Pap Iām supposed to be the one completely unaware and oblivious, that post is right up there in whopperville self righteous shite.
And if I donāt know what Iām on about I donāt expect you to eitherā¦
Yes, while Iām stuffing those things into my rectal cavity, consider the following.
Iād come down like a ton of bricks on anyone on TSW that publicly announced that they were ignoring one person. When someone does what youāve done several times now, youāre announcing youāre ignoring the whole site.
And for what? An opinion you didnāt agree with which wasnāt easily going away after youād tried hitting it once? And no disrespect to any of our newer posters, but Jack Schitt hasnāt been around that long.
Like any newer poster, people are going to be weighing his words with a little more care, particularly given some of the information shared in this thread, but no-one is going to be making decisions about What Sotonians Is based on The Content Of One New Poster. No-one that is, except yourself.
If weāre going to have drama, letās have proper drama, with conflict and resolution and all that good stuff. Having a senior poster exit stage left and say that the theatre is shit every time she finds the script a little hard going isnāt edifying for the venue, the audience or the actors.