Iâm not sure why people thought I wasnât going to enjoy this episode of Discovery. There was very little wrong with it. Its fresh in the brain, but I think it might be one of the better episodes of the entire run.
I like this concept. I liked this concept when Brian Singer pitched something similar, involving a Federation fighting for its life in the 29th century.
This weekâs episode is the kind of slow, plodding and cerebral Star Trek that I like. There have been better courtroom episodes in Trek, but this didnât have to be the best. It had other things on its plate.
It also had the job of re-introducing two new Star Trek races to the mix. Mercifully, the Romulan wasnât fucking Irish. Donât mind the rename of Vulcan. Itâs a perfectly explainable decision given the backstory.
The only real annoyance is Discovery trying to retcon itself onto Spock, but that has been an annoyance throughout.
Donât mind it driving story beats, but it is a bit fucking rich when people say stuff like âI wonder how much of the man Spock he became was because of his sisterâ. Itâs a piss-take.
Theyâre plot-committed now. That decision was made years ago, so I shouldnât moan, but it still grates when Discovery tries to claim cred for Spock.
Apart from that gripe, very good.
You just cut & paste the Trekcore review 
I also thought it was one of the better episodes (hence my comment Powerful). Couple of moments that annoyed the geeks as well - they are starting to get fed up of all the hugging and tears.
Putting the canon together - The Romulan story was out there, so a Unification was a solid plot option. And tbh they had to hark back to TNG era Spock who at least tried to start the process.
But yes, Spock became Spock because of Burnham. Nah that was 
Burnham is still far too âunbrokenâ to have earned that (yet)
I just donât understand why they thought that choice was a good idea. Youâre immediately alienating the portion of the fanbase inside out. It just feels like Discovery is saying its values influenced Trek, when it absolutely fucking didnât.
Some of the best episodes of Discovery are basically repurposed plots from other series. Thatâs not a knock. The exact same can be said of The Orville. Itâs also not like they canât revisit a character without fucking it up. The depth they added to Pike was excellent, perhaps the only bright spot of S2.
Think Strange New Worlds may balance the Franchise better.
I rather suspect itâll alienate all the time itâs playing around in that part of time. We will see.
Weâve just watched it @Polski_Filip and enjoyed it very much thank you.
Studiously avoided all spoilers etc on here.
The Spock âspecial additionâ was well received
Tilly becoming No.1 ? Thatâs stretching the believable.
Strangely this is what I thought @pap would go off on one about!!
BTW NiâVar originally comes from a 1976 short Star Trek short story about Vulcans, meaning âthe duality of things
Indeed. No surprises here tbh
I thought that was well done, actually, for many of the same reasons I like Saruâs elevation. Itâs earned.
I am not forgetting for a second that it is Michael Burnhamâs basic inability to follow orders that has got these people their promotions, but the show has devoted a lot of screen time to both, and it wasnât so long ago that Tilly was trying to pull off a Terran bitch captain in S1.
I agree with Saru. Her experience far beyond exceeds the parameters of the Starfleet Command Course.
And I had bet myself a bottle of Vodka it would be her.
The clincher for me was when she advised Saru to report Burnham to Vance last week.
Episode 2 where Tilly & Saru went walk about made it obvious.
A good leader needs a trusted advisor. Tilley showed she could do that as well as being an uber geek
When you think about it, it couldnât have been anyone else.
Stamets is jump-boy. Georgiou is a Terran and evil. Weâve only just started learning the names of the bridge crew.
Easiest bottle of vodka Iâll ever win.
Not a bad teaser
No more details.
No real spoilers but wasnât impressed.
Dumb shit everywhere you turn. Didnât mind the broader strokes, but some of the details, such as people being able to see a very small ship from the naked eye from the ground were a bit crap.
It also features a defence system which can keep ships it doesnât like from entering, but apparently has no appreciation of the concept of a âtorpedoâ.
Weâll be sitting down shortly to catch up. Will let you know whether Fam C_S agreeâŚor not
Also weâre looking forward to the next series of The Expanse week after next.
Lol 
We all enjoyed it, but damn @pap Mrs C_S and YoungAdult#1 went ââow come torpedoes could get through the defenses & how big is that ship if you can see it from the ground?â (Shakes fist!)
Saru really needs to work on his catch phrase.
So. @pap was right, it had some plot holes. But Iâm amazed he missed that only The Sanctuary had shields. Carpet bombs everywhere else. Conclusive blasts inside.
It borrowed shamelessly for Star Wars in the attack on Osyraaâs ship for great effect.
We are not just getting backstory now, we are getting Bridge Crew doing stuff. After 2.66667 Seasons that is huge.
The Universe building to the 1st BADDY has been slow yet well done.
The stage has been set.
And yes. Obviously some weaknesses in the story, the Brothers stuff, but the Georgiu arc keeps getting " fascinating"
Where did I bury that last body? amazed that @Goatboy got a mention