Social Integration is not happening

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I’m in fkn Travelodge at the moment. I’ve got deal going with the guy on the front desk, cos I’m up here a Lot. I give him cash, and he sorts me room no questions asked. I don’t think I’m here official. If the hotel burns down, I don’t think anyone would be looking for my body, if you know what I mean.

Nice guy, I thought. Helps me out. Saves me a few quid. We’re like friends now. He texts me when Liverpool win. I text him racist jokes and what-not. But then we was chatting and he said something bout his mosque and I was like Uh-Oh. Not sure what to do. The whole thing seems quite sinister now.

950

You’re either on the wind-up, seriously ignorant (as in lacking knowledge and not really interested in acquiring it) or an out-and-out Islamophobe. I’m guessing it’s a mixture of all three.

Frankly, you are (or come across as) a bigot. A nasty, small-minded bigot.

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951

Religion and culture are very different things.

952

Typical leftie pony. Play the ball not the man

953

I think you’ll find I do, equally backward echelons.

954

And there’re laughed at wholeheartedly in games and films, a maturity at least that has to be acknowledged.

955

Whether said for a rise or not this is true, we are living through it now.

956

He isn’t a Muslim then as you have to marry within the faith. He is British, no more no less.

957

Too many people tip toeing around this Baz. Lefties & " progressives " won’t open their eyes

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958

I love the people on here giving their multicultural credentials, I often ask my gay friend who was born a Muslim what he thinks of homophobes, he quite rightly calls them cunts whether they’re Muslim, Christian or Atheist, he in a beer drinking way has a point, stop excusing cuntish behaviour, he is a cunt because of reason A, she is a bellend because of reason B.

Challenge things that are wrong, plainly wrong, there are cunts everywhere, some people merely thinks cunts are solely white, thats ignorant white guilt and frankly patronising, any colour and you’ll find a cunt,

959

Trouble is if you keep saying cunt it loses its shock effect. Use sparingly, and stop being a racist cunt you cunt.

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960

Lord Duckhunter

961

Grammar school boy thanks. Parents couldn’t have afforded a nice posh private school.

Fortunately I’m smart as fuck. Thank heavens Theresa Bae is bringing back grammar schools so that smart little upstarts like me can make their way up in the world into the City.

…admittedly via the jobcentre, callcentre and building site, but hey-ho!

962

"But I believe that is more to do with the rather extremist sects that hold all the power (most of these places aren’t exactly paragons of Democracy), than a systemic problem with all of Islam - particularly Muslims born and raised in Western countries. "

Yeah. Sorry buddy but this is where you’re just denying reality. Have a look at a few pew polls of Muslim attitudes in the UK towards issues like homosexuality, women’s rights and apostasy.

The religion, like all religions, is a load of age-old mysoginistic, conservative, patriarchal codswallop. The problem is literally that leftists in the UK are reluctant to properly criticise it because most of its practitioners are brown. Sorry but that’s the truth.

_ "it doesn’t escape my attention that many people who love to bash Islamic countries don’t exactly go after Russia with the same gusto. Which, is a nation with an Authoritarian regime with equally barbaric treatment of LGBT folk. " _

Er. No. Lol.

Homosexuality in Russia is completely legal. In Afghanistan, Brunei, Iran, Iraq, Mauritania, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates and Yemen, homosexual activity carries the death penalty. In other Muslim countries, such as Algeria, Maldives, Malaysia, Qatar, Somalia and Syria, it is illegal.

There’s an absolutely huge gulf there. And I’d like you to refrain from making that erroneous comparison from now on.

TO THE PATRONS OF SOTONIANS

Our dear friend KRG (doubtless a good man I’m quite sure), claimed that Russia is an authoritarian regime with _**“EQUALLY BARBARIC TREATMENT OF LGBT FOLK”

This claim is completely false, mistaken and not true.

Being gay in Russia isn’t even illegal, yet in many Muslim countries carries the death penalty.**_

Yet not a single one of you took two minutes to fact-check this utterly false and incorrect claim.

Does this not give you pause for thought about your own worldview or your own susceptibility to propaganda?

KRG - I’m sure this was a mistake on your part and I trust that you’re open-minded enough to re-think your position on the subject.

963

You are implying that the two are equal purely because you can’t prove things one way or the other.

Yet if it were a Christian bakery refusing to serve gay people there’s a 0% chance you’d be all “D’ahwel, can’t prove anything one way or the other! who’s to say who’s right and wrong?”

You’d be like “er, no, fuck that shit. That’s bang out of order and fuck the ‘religion’ excuse” (as you should be).

Christopher Hitchens was bang on the money when he pointed out that there’s a special treatment given to religion in these circumstances.

964

…And besides which, the Qu’ran (and the Bible) are a load of shite compared to centuries of scientific study. Why on Earth we’re supposed to treat the two as equal is beyond me. In fact, to be quite frank, I don’t even believe you’re being sincere when you say we ought to.

You know full well that one has no evidence for it beyond the Lionel Hutz-esque “well you can’t disprove it!” and the other is more-or-less the culmination of years upon years of scientific, cultural and philosophical progress.

If it was one lunatic banging on about how the Necronomicon and the Dark Lord Ctuhlu had declared that gay people are all evil and should be stoned to death, you’d dismiss them as a raving lunatic. Because its people with brown skin, your principles go out the window because you’re scared to appear racist.

That’s not a crime. Its something many people have been suckered in by. You’re not the only one.

But I would like to ask that you consider your views and how you’ve been influenced.

965

Fuck off Barry you arse

Yeah, I’m happy to show you my “multicultural credentials” as you so succinctly put it.

The reason for doing it is because not everyone is as narrow minded as some on here. I shouldn’t have to do it but sometimes you have to take a stand against the borderline / not so borderline ongoing racist / anti-non white British culture crap you (&others) continually peddle on here.

Just fucking grow up will you…

966

Is the trouser press ticking?

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967

No.

That you felt compelled to tell people proves the opposite.

Keep believing it, if it’ll help with your anger problems though, that’s a good thing.

968

Well as @mrtrampoline cannot spell the name of the UK prime minister it tells us he is not quite as smart as fuck as he thinks he is.