Based on what I have seen of Mr Tramps posts, we do seem to have had a fair amount of similar experiences. Probably not a totally unfair assessment.
You, Me and the Apocalypse??
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I am a very nice chap, honest!
We can say what we think is right or wrong but that doesn’t mean it is right or wrong. Similarly, what right do we have to impose our ways of thinking (our values and ethics) upon another culture. Even democracy, which we often regard as some kind of epitome of civilisation, has significant problems (tyranny of the masses and all that).
Imagine, for a moment, that the muslims are right, Allah is the one true god and the Koran is a correct interpretation of His word. This is what many muslims believe. So, they are right and the secular ‘west’ is wrong. The same applies to devout Christians, Hindus etc.
You can say they’re wring, they’ll say they’re right - impasse.
The same applies to cultural norms and values. In fact, this is more the case really. Culture is embedded into people from being an infant and, in my opinion, is the true thiung that separates us. If you’ve lived all your life seeing authority figures as being important and conservative values as being paramount, no amount of liberal, wishy washy western bollocks is going to shift that view. Coupled with that, if you believe that life is a mere blip on the cosmic scale of things and that an eternity awaits you in heaven or hell, this is going to colour your views of the world.
What do we end up with? Cultural relativism. And the best way, I guess, of dealing with the differences is to seek to rub along together, valuing different cultures for their richness and diversity and tolerating the problems that leads to.
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Islam is a medieval religion that needs to go through its own period of enlightenment , until it does it is incompatable with western values.
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Do you know as much about Islam as you do about women or by-election results, @lord-duckhunter ? 
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Christianity is a Dark Ages religion that needs to go through its own period of enlightenment. Until it does, it is incompatible with Western secular values
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Don’t talk pony man. Christianity no longer takes the bible literally and has moved into the modern era ( and I write as an atheist), Islam has not . I’m not talking about the lunatics who behead people, but the moderates. Their values towards women , gays , Jews & non believers is hardly live & let live. You can’t even pivture Mo for fucks sake If Monty Python did “The life of Mo” now they’d be signing their death warrant and ’ moderate " Islam would blame them for bringing on themselves . Look at meetings involving " moderates ’ . Chicks have to sit away from men. Fucking medieval. racist , women hating , homophobic religion . FACT
Interesting. Is that Official? I’m picturing the pope on his balcony, holding up his hands, and sheepishly going, “Ok, alright. I admit it. Jonah and the Whale is All Lies. Noah and his ark, yeah that’s lies too. It probably did rain tho, pretty hard. Virgin Mary? Fkn doubt it, brah. Know what I’m saying? Still, nice stories, ain’t they? If they help you sleep at night, carry on. That’s what we’re saying. Amen.”
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One thing we may agree on. I am an atheist so I would like a bit less religion really.
There are swathes of Christians in many parts of the world (particularly in the US) that still take the Bible literally.
As for Chicks having to sit away from men, your wording sounds pretty medieval to me. Please tell me I havent woken up in the mid 70s?
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Nothing wrong with Stargate SG1 … Carter is hot
I never watched it tbh, I only said it cos it has a particular geeky title.
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See that’s the problem with you lefties. Blokes aren’t allowed to call women chicks, but you turn a blind eye to FGM, chicks treated as second class citizens, burkas & other Islamist sexism.
I said “mainstream” Muslims were the problem & they are. You’re trying to equate extreme Christians with mainstream Islam . Mainstream Christians are law abiding tolerant people, mainstream Islam is bigoted and backward
you’re a fucking idiot
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ha ha ha ha ha ha
I presume you actually belive this nonsense (and are not just trolling us all - which, tbf, is a distinct possibility). I guess you know few or no muslims and equate them with women walking around in burkas. Fatso is right, you’re a fucking idiot. Mainstream Islam is every bit as law-abiding and tolerant as mainstream Christianity. Extreme Christians are, frankly, not a great deal different to most extreme Muslims, extreme Jews and extreme Hindus.
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Problem with LD, is he don’t pander. He should be like, “Religion adds a nice sense of ceremony & occassion to funerals and weddings, but shouldn’t be taken too srs or allowed to interfere with ur actual life. The Christian bros have prob got the upper hand on Musloids, in that respect.”
I feel like that sort of post would stand more chance of sneak past the papsweb border guard.
Pony , complete pony.
I employ a guy who happens to be British muslim and married to a Hindu
Tomorrow I’m interviewing a guy who I worked with in the past who also happens to be a British muslim and married to a christian. And unless he turns up pissed, will get the job.
Not sure what I’m really trying to say, but both blokes have passed the beer test, the C_S’ have socialised with their better halves, more than the obligatory once, and religion doesn’t come in to it at all.
Happy to give examples of friends who are not white Anglo saxon if you want.
Lack of integration seems to be bandied about by people who have never left their white British comfort zone…or who are just plain ignorant. I’m not normally an angry man but some of the attitudes on here make my blood boil…
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