Social Integration is not happening

I don’t stand anywhere on it as I am not informed enough about the subject to have a valid opinion.

Covenient.

https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/2012/jul/29/the-big-issue-male-circumcision

From a liberal paper.

Bollocks to the liberal paper Barry where do you stand on it.

and convenient it may be, and as well travelled as I am I do not know everything about everything so sometimes you have to ask or stand down.

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Everybody is equal but FGM is different to circumcision, of course it is.

So what set of rules would you like to apply 1 or 2

I did reply number 1.

So one set of rules for all.

Thank fuck for that.

So with one set of rules

Lets take genital mutilation as a hypothetical test case should it not apply to the genitals of males and females equally?

I did reply I’ve also said they’re very different as they are well, different, the removal of a foreskin however barbaric is not the same, not the same practice, not in the same climate nor the same procedure.

However wrong they are, one is worse, you talked of black and white, there we have it.

It doesnt matter if one is worse that the other they are both mutilations of genitals you cannot and as you have already said you want one set of rules for all change the rules because of gender.

Well you can as FGM is illegal in the UK and circumcision is legal. There is obviously a difference in law? You may disagree but the law stands but isn’t respected as FGM takes place.

Not obscure. Very widespread. Total relevance. It doesnt matter what sex it is still mutilation of the genitals.

You are more slippery that an eel and KY jelly sandwich coated in swarfega! You do know that FGM is illegal here dont you and that people get prosecuted for it?

And here endeth the lesson ladies and gent’s

Never try and debate with Mr Sanchez

the question never stays the same and the answer will change depending on what way the ill wind is blowing.

How FGM came about from Social intergration is not happening I have no idea

I will now concede the floor to Mr Sanchez who can continue this with so other poor scmuck as its time for my bed.

Goodnight all.

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I think I said that in the above post its illegal, you’ve also conceded “its not exactly the same”, pass that on to Phillipine could you and help us all out?

Goodnight.

I was going to say the same thing Phil. I am not sure what FGM has got to do with social integration of migrants in the UK. It is illegal here and if anyone does it they are open to prosecution. Same with “honour killings” (murder) and every other anti social activity that is against the laws of the UK. Do that here and no matter what religion, race, creed or colour you are, you willl face prosecution if you break the law. If Barry wants to tell us that the immigrants to this country are ignoring the law and living under their own codes of conduct, lets have that out in the open so we can have a proper debate. If youi want to bring up Sharia courts again Barry, you are aware that they operate outside the the British legal system I take it?

For someone who hates liberals with every political bone in your body, you do seem to be spouting some pretty liberal stuff.

Against FGM. Check

Against intolerance. Check

Against homophobia. Check.

Want everyone to get along peacefully and within the rules of the land. Check

We’ll make a Social Democrat of you yet! :lou_wink:

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Barry spending another thread getting his arse handed to him. You’d think he’d get bored of being wrong so often wouldn’t you?

:lou_facepalm_2:

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Your far to late. @barry-sanchez is the biggest liberal on here. He’s the love child of Shirley Williams and David Steel.

Told me once i couldn’t quote the Guardian as i had slated one or two of their journalists, which implies that he is in complete agreement with them as he likes linking the paper.

Now i think about it, he does look like Jonathan Freedman(whoever freed him should be shot).

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Those things anyone should want, well unless you follow a different culture of tolerance.