Social Integration is not happening

There are a number of statements in this post that are so wrong it should be kept on file for future generations.

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will there’s only two statements made in that post. Maybe tomorrow I’ll find a source for the abortion figure and show to you how the soviet union repressed religion.

until then, I bid you farewell!

So on average every Russian female has had 7 abortions, thats an awful lot you know? Fucking hell, what source you going to get to back that one up!

Russia is an incredibly religious nation, even the Soviet Union was as well, you mentioned both, want to throw Madagascar in there?

Originally posted by @Fatso

will there’s only two statements made in that post. Maybe tomorrow I’ll find a source for the abortion figure and show to you how the soviet union repressed religion.

until tomorrow, I bid you farewell!

worst episode of ‘The littlest hobo’ ever.

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I’m just curious because when the Pompey Takeover was at its peak the RB corporation had to move to larger premises and take on more writers to meet the demand of that one poster.

We had them doing eight hour shifts and even had to set up a research division in the Far East.

Barry, how many people have you got working on the Sanchez account?

You must need a lot of staff to keep posting on so many fronts and with such clarity of message.

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Perhaps I’m the one making the mistake here, but I fail to see how its much of a caricature.

Much of what constitutes the outlook of generally liberal Western countries is more-or-less summed up by the phrase “Do what you like, lest it harm no other”. Actually, that’s an outlook I personally agree with myself, but it does force me to make tough choices (as exemplified by the Christian bakers who’d like to refuse certain services to gay people vs the gay people who’d like to be able to order a cake with whatever personalised message just like anyone else).

Rights and freedoms conflict. Its not the most controversial statement in the world, but it is a challenge liberalism has to address.

And many “Christian” Americans are circumsized. Nothing to do with religion but more to do with hygene apparantly. A former girlfriend of mine was amazed that I still had my foreskin, first time she had seen one in the flesh, so to speak. But lets stick with Muslims as it suits your particular phobia.

They’re two distinct things and done under different methods, culture and hygene are very different reasons for circumcision and if done under anaesthetic there is no issue either if consent is given, I was given this as an example SOG but keep prodding for a reaction, Merry Christmas.

Originally posted by @saintbletch

Hi Barry.

You said…

Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez

He is, I don’t refer to him as Muslim though , I refer to him as a Jeweller and a good bloke, thats is my point I don;t define him by a religion. He always sends Christmas cards as well, funny that, thats integration isn’t it? A Kasmiri/Pakistani Muslim sending Christmas cards from an old Portugese enclave in India. Strange it has never come up when were talking as we couldnt give a shite as were good people, or try to be.

This is the first time we learned about your jeweller friend.

Originally posted by Barry Sanchez

I’ve been to Goa many times and celebrated Holi day but I don’t say I’ve celebrated with a Hindu I say I had a laugh with a person, same with my Jeweller who is Kasmiri and also a Muslim , he is a good bloke who is a Jeweller, I simply don’t see that in someone, if your good your good thats all that matters.

So the first time we were introduced to your jeweller friend, you refer to him as a Muslim.

Even though you subsequently assured us that you " don’t refer to him as a Muslim though".

Why?

And why did you say you don’t?

And why then lambast SoG for bringing the religion of him barber to this thread?

I’m outraged…

Actually, I’ll let you into a little secret, Barry.

I’m not outraged.

I understand why you did it.

It was germane to the context of the discussion we were having.

You wouldn’t ordinarily concern yourself with the beliefs of people - I believe that is what you’re saying, but as it fits into the context of the discussion, you now feel it’s relevant and have shared it in that context.

That makes sense. I don’t think any less of you (really).

I think that’s probably the same thought process that SoG followed. You both seem to have considered the beliefs of the people you know as important to share because they add to the discussion we hare having.

Can you see that?

[At this point I’d prefer you to stick to this discussion and not take us to Peru, discuss the dimensions of the infamous Kraken or call me (or anyone) a whopper.]

Hi, Barry.

I didn’t see a response to this. Did you plan to respond?

Should we just agree that SoG bringing the beliefs of his barber into the thread was as valid as you bringing the beliefs of your jeweller?

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Mu-ha!

I’ve seen a version of this fine bletch performance in real life.

There is no defence for it. The chosen target of reason will eventually collapse under the weight of different points of view, conceding some form of defeat on the day.

She will then refer to him as a “twat” whenever you remind her of her schooling :lou_sunglasses:

I didn’t bring it up I mentioned it as a response that it held no value at all, a persons faith matters not neither does their race, keep on plugging again and needling boys.

Merry Christmas!

Hi Barry.

Originally posted by Barry Sanchez

I didn’t bring it up I mentioned it as a response that it held no value at all, a persons faith matter not neither does their race, keep on plugging again and needling boys.

You didn’t bring it up, you mentioned it.

Hold on. Give me a mo.

You didn’t bring it up, you mentioned it as a response…

So you mentioned it as a response, but that’s not bringing it up?

The first time you mentioned the Jeweller was in this post.

I’ve been to Goa many times and celebrated Holi day but I don’t say I’ve celebrated with a Hindu I say I had a laugh with a person, same with my Jeweller who is Kasmiri and also a Muslim , he is a good bloke who is a Jeweller, I simply don’t see that in someone, if your good your good thats all that matters.

So you thought it was now relevant to bring up the beliefs of your jeweller because, as a response , it now seems relevant, but you still hold that SoG shouldn’t have brought it up as a response to your challenge that social integration isn’t happening?

Remember, I’m not suggesting that you shouldn’t have mentioned your Jeweller’s beliefs. I think it’s germane on this thread. I also think SoG’s barber’s beliefs are also germane - in the context in which he brought them up.

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I work in a primary school that has a very culturally and ethnically diverse intake.

I got a Christmas card this year from a young Kurdish girl called Avan who fled Iraq with her family. Her brother Nahrow is also at the school. Lovely kids.

I spoke to a mate about this as I thought it was wonderful and he said that she might be a Christian Kurd. I asked her if she was a Christrian and she frowned and told me that she was a Muslim.

Given where she has come from she, and indeed the wider family, feel blessed to be here and suck up every opportunity to integrate themselves further into the school and the community.

Poor Nahrow has been exposed to some bitter attacks though, not because he is foreign or because of his beliefs or culture (whatever that might mean), but because he regularly wears Chelsea, Liverpool and Man U tops to do PE in.

Here’s the card.

I think they are pretty well socially integrated, but given that she is 10, it will be a while before she can complete the mixing of blood.

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More prodding Bletch, Merry Christmas!

That girl has been broken by the British Values you teach her. Notice how the brown deer is bowing its head in front of the proud, white stag? She has learnt to subjugate herself at an early age and that the white man is boss. Well done, Mr Goodie. I hope you’re proud.

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And I’m not trolling you and needling you.

I will keep plugging away though as I think too many times on here, you aren’t held to account for your posts.

I don’t mind if I end up being persuaded by you, if you end up being persuaded by me or we agree to disagree.

I simply plan to take specific issues to a conclusion with you.

Yeah, merry Xmas, by the way. To you and your increasing family!

x

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Why thank you, of course thats your right and perogative and I welcome it.

Hi Barry.

Good man.

And in response to my last couple of posts before that?

Do you have anything to add?

Merry Xmas.

Bletch ask a question not a repost of a repost, I’ll answer it very quickly I always do.