So erm, which Saints forum is more liberal than us then?
We are world beating at very little, Barry.
Thanks to @saintbletchâs work (both in convincing me and implementing), weâve got the most capable platform before you get to truly big players like Facebook.
You donât have to pay a fiver a year to have more than three thoughts a day, youâre not posting on some franchise that has super rules that they have no say over, or some social media giant with even more constraints.
I think the truth is that this site is the most free Saints forum that exists, in every sense of the word. No-one but the owners have ever put a penny in their pocket to post here. There has never been a swear filter. I have upheld an early commitment to freedom of speech throughout.
If you end up getting banned from here, which it seems you are trying your level best to do, it wonât be because the powers that be are trying to shut you down, that weâre scared by the power of your words or fear them getting out.
Weâve let you spaff on for five fucking years!
Itâll be because youâve consistently acted like a hostile cunt.
I think you need to read the posts aimed at me, even when Iâm not capable to defend myself, youâre also in the minority concerning Begum other than this site, doesnât make the majority right of course but it gives it weight.
Where have I been hostile? Racist?
Youâre trying to appease the not so masses Pap, just because I disagree doesnât mean I should be silenced, thatâs not an open platform.
That is totalitarian, something youâre supposed to abhor.
Where are all these new posters since I was away? Maybe just maybe it actually isnât me but what we have here now is an echo chamber of discontented liberals who arenât with the mainstream?
Just maybe.
Dehumanisation? Really? And the things she surpported are pro human rights and advance the moral compass of the World?
Sheâs your proxy, like most things on here, its just a chance to attack and attempt to further your opinion, be honest lad.
Be honest.
The Bulger killers have not had all their rights as British citizens removed. In fact they have been cared for by the state since their crime.
@Goatboy They would be killed in an instant, I donât think you can could ever ever understand the sense of feeling for them unless you live here, they would be torn to shreds literally and no one, no one person would stand in the way nor shed a tear.
Not one.
Ask Pap if you donât believe me, also no one wants them protected, one by the way lives in Australia and apparently is very successful, is that justice restored?
Well, what a productive morning it has been, for both myself and @Barry-Sanchez. Iâve managed to do something I never wanted to do, ironically enough deprived someone of their Sotonians citizenship. He managed to get banned within 24 hours of his return.
I did not consult the other moderators, but I didnât really need to. While I wonât mention specifics, it is fair to say that Barry managed to alienate every member of the moderation community. I was the last still in his corner.
He had two weeks of people talking about him, without his ability to be talk back or wreck the discussion, and I really donât think he can argue with much of what was said there. I donât think it was overly nasty relative to what Barry posted.
I wanted it to work, but I donât think it will, because hereâs where weâre at.
Every topic of discussion infested with Barryâs narrow agenda, which included:-
Saying Southampton, the city, was shit at every opportunity.
Having a singular dislike for the football team he claims to support.
Blooming death spirals of pointless rows with every other poster that dares reply to him.
An ostensible inability to detect when people were agreeing with him.
Has systematically alienated everyone on the site that hasnât fucked off already.
Has fuck all to do, and all day to do it. @lifeintheslowlane is in a similar spot. We get lovely pictures of Molly and his motor from him.
By contrast, Barry has used his time to post endlessly, tirelessly, and tediously about the same three topics/prejudices (depending on how well heâs dressing them up at the time)
I still think @Fatso is fucking mental for thinking the site is racist, but if there is an element, and if it did come straight from the top, it is me allowing this poundshop Clarkson cunt to ply his trade here for five years.
This is not a snap decision. It has been coming for a long time and while I do not possess the same bedside manner as @saintbletch, I have at least been transparent about it. This is not a bolt out of the blue for the moderation community. Like I said, I was the last to fall. We knew this outcome was likely two weeks ago.
I said so on this site, publicly.
Barry is not Spock. He is a cock.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.
Lemme know if you have any serious problems with this.
Weâve all had our moments when weâve not been our best selves on here. Iâd probably we world champion if not for Barry.
Most of us, even me, aim to do better than that most of the time. Bazza is wired the opposite. I have tried for five long years to accommodate him, to never have a ban.
Iâve failed. I just donât know to reconcile that attitude with the consensus.
And weâre not a fucking echo chamber. If you look carefully, everyone gets challenged. Youâd see these quiet tussles (I still remember my times under the @Fowllyd microscope) except itâs just too hard to pick them out.
Youâre more likely to get needled in a Baz-stack.
Him and one or two others are âon blockâ since Tiggs told me how to do it. Didnât even realise he was back. The vast majority of this forum are people that I would (and have) have a beer with but there are one or two Iâd go out of my way to avoid. Unfortunately he was one. Shame really because he was probably a really nice guy but way, way too much time on his hands and a innate desire to foist his views on the wider population.
Not even sure they were his views. Always seemed to correlate with whatever the Tommy Robinson crowd were bleating at the time and/or whatever foreign power America happened to be criticising.
Being charitable, perhaps he thought he had a role in preventing this place from becoming the echo chamber he feared. The truth is he was the echo.
Thereâs forum theory that you need characters like Barry for things to roll on. They generate outrage, outrage generates traffic, yadda yadda yadda.
I believed that five years ago. The stats back it up. Just as GDP ainât the best measure of a countryâs finances, traffic can be good or bad.
Traffic in this case was like someone coming to your house bursting for a shit, decorating your entire manor with faecal matter and then smearing it all over the walls and upholstery.
Where you could have had one clean controlled shit in the designated place, itâs fucking everywhere.
Barry traffic. I genuinely wonât miss the log-jam.
Well thank fuck for that. Too many threads were contaminated with extremist drivel, and even though I had him blocked, I could still see which threads were infected, so as far as possible I avoided them, or just scrolled through until he was gone.
Now I can go back to gently looking through pleasant and sometimes serious threads, especially the dog/car pictures and others posted by Mollyâs dad (as he is known in this house!).
Barry has been cancelled to placate mediocrity and youâve abandoned your own beliefs.
The forum software reporting and blocking features have always been there for those who objected to what he had to say.
Despite being UK GOVERNMENT PSY-OPs and deluded, Barry had principles and he stuck to them.
One of his guiding principles was freedom of speech and much of his behaviour can be explained simply as a reaction to people trying to shut him down, which escalated into ever increasing antagonisation on both sides.
I appreciate that Barry had flaws and could be frustrating but thatâs really not a good enough reason to exclude him IMO.
Frankly many of the comments I see on here make my blood boil. @BTripz post on the Syria thread today, @Sadoldgitâs comment on Scottish politics today and @Polski_Filipâs post on Jamie Bulger last night for example. Nobody is asking for them to be cancelled. These arenât one off cases either these are their latest posts from a whole litany of ignorant posts little different to Barryâs. One rule for them and another for Barry.
Since you fucked around with the software yesterday 2 black speech bubbles have appeared on my avatar. Does that mean I am now a member of the group of twats?
This has fuck all to do with freedom of speech⌠There are plenty of places Barry can go and spout his bollocks, bile and bullshit. He has gone because this is a community that have had enough of his nasty trolling and more sinister innuendo, and there is no moral or legal need to put up with it. If folks on here get fucked off enough with me to ban me, I would be looking at myself first and asking some questions about what did I do, not whinging like the fucktard he is about freedom of speech. Its about self awareness and just a bit of integrity
In real life he might be a best bloke in the world, but that does not given him the right to act like a total cunt in a community