Should the rich pay for your kid's free lunch?

Can’t see it strikes me as a particularly well thought out bit of policy (ignoring the fact it’ll never be enacted). Some evidence based intervention would help instead of going for the headline grabbing ‘don’t let our children starve’.

Jesus, much as that? There must be a fuck load more kids in private school than I would have Guessed.

Guys; there’s a tonne of confusion in this debate because subjective words like ‘rich’ are being used where we don’t have an agreed definition of what these words mean.

What makes someone ‘rich’? Are we talking top 20% of household incomes? 10%? 5%? 1%?

I haven’t looked at the stats but as I say, mean average salary in the UK is £27k. Many private schools have fees of £15k-20k p/y so to be able to have that amount of money left over *after* all your life expenses (which are already going to be high by virtue of being able to raise a family without government assistance) strikes me as leaving you pretty well-off to say the least.

think dictionary definition is “More money than Me”

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Apart from two weeks at Blackfield infant school for one of my kids, both of them have been in private education either paid for by me or a company I was working for as part of the renumeration.

I agree that the infant school kids should all get free school dinners.

My Gran was head cook at Blackfield infant school so when I went there I had to eat them as well as pay for them. So soggy veg and tasteless sausages were never left on the plate if Gran was walking around the dining hall.

Where that puts me in this thread I have no idea.

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Well no, a large number of families are two income nowadays.

So you have two hardworking people bringing in £27k py each equals £54k. So let’s say one of their incomes goes on mortgage, bills, living expenses etc., leaves them the other salary as disposable income for buying cars, having holidays and so on … or putting their kids thru private education if they’d prefer. I wouldn’t consider that being rich, just a level of comfort derived from hard graft and good money management.

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They’re not all rich. Some are just deluded enough to throw good money away. One of my ex-girlfriends didn’t go to an independent school, but her brother did. What a mindfuck that must have been. Your brother is worth more than you.

  1. What happens to children who are already in private education? To bump up costs by 20% for parents who can’t afford it, and have to move their children back into state school could result in that money being wasted for those parents. I think the 20% increase should only be applicable to new starters if this was a serious policy.

Channel 4 commissions “The Inbetweeners : The Next Generation”.

Really though, the main concern is that these kids would not be able to cope in a comprehensive school, and the main reason for that is that their parents didn’t want their kids mixing with that lot anyway.

Besides, it’s not like being made homeless, is it?

  1. This should raise around £1.8b. Fuck spending that on shit flans and bollocks chocloate mousses. Spend it on something useful, like 60,000 new teachers to reduce school class sizes - that’s 3 per school on average.

This initiative doesn’t preclude the raising of standards elsewhere.

This. Many of the My daughts friends parents are academics, often form abroad- lecturers earning 30-35k which is higher than avaerge for sure, but not by much and hardly huge - often their partners work locally in more administrtaive roles within teh university earning under 20k - but this after tax is enough to pay the 7-10 k per year (or 600-800 per month) so not sure how this makes folks ‘rich’ enough to pay another 2k on top… Sure ther arefolks for who an extra 2k is easy…but that is not the majority that i know…

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Really… have you experienced an independent school yourself ? in effect are you qualified to make this case or is it just reflective of your assumptions based on your innate prejudices and reverse snobbery? you having met a few ignorant cunts at uni… :lou_facepalm_2:

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Pap - you haven’t mentioned you grew up on a council estate yet. Come on - I’ve got a Pap’s bingo card to complete here.

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There you go. Even in private schools, the class divide persists. I bet at parents day the Idle Rich see you rock up in ur Volkswagon Passat, with ur Marks & Spencer suit, and they’re just like, ew.

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No prompting him, that is just cheating! But if he says “flowers estate” I’m shouting ‘HOUSE!’.

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They’re not all rich. Some are just deluded enough to throw good money away. One of my ex-girlfriends didn’t go to an independent school, but her brother did. What a mindfuck that must have been. Your brother is worth more than you.

In your opinion maybe but isn’t living in a free society about having choices ?

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When I grew up on a council estate we didn’t have choices, we had fish paste sandwiches and spam for dinner (tea we now call it in the north) but it didn’t do me any harm. Papsweb wasn’t build on private education and cricket matches. It was made from hard work and sweat from the lesbian sisters on the flowers estate. Now if you southern fairies have more money than sense and want to throw it away on education, that’s fine but my kids are getting a free lunch out of it and that’s final!

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This is indeed the case Bear… I know my status in lifes pecking order… but no different from similar sub groupings in the state world… With the Volvo drivers looking down on Ford Mondeo man, who looks down on Dachia man

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and the cyclists looking down on all of us

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Hi unlucky fuckers who live in the UK. Where I live, University is cheap as chips even for people who come from outside of the EU and it is good. Nursery is about £300 a month, kindergarten is £250 a month and includes meals. You are squabbling over the petty scraps the masters throw you from your table when you should be looking at me on the other table getting my dick sucked and my tummy tickled. On top of that they throw cash at me for having kids. That’s one clue as to why things are different at my table. I.e. low birth rate. But what explains the low birth rate over here and the high birth rate over there. It’s actually quite a profound difference between two very similar cultures.

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Where do u live? 1964?

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They’re 21 and 17 respectively, penarse x

‘Dick sucked and tummy tickled’ at the same time? That’s just too much stimulation. Not sure I could cope with that.

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