If she is troubled then it is completely different, if she is found to be sane, stable and of normal or higher intelligence throw the book at her, why not? Allegations like that can ruin lives.
That downvote’s mine, Baz. Sorry!
So be it, you can’t make an accusation regardless without proof, imagine if a refugee was locked up for that charge?
And don’t misconstrue this as me advocating silence on issues concerning possible rape, it solely concerns the issue of false accusation.
So can anything a juvenile does.
We have different sentencing, rehabilitation paths and institutions for them because we recognise they don’t have the judgement skills we expect of adults.
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So a child can make a baseless accuastion without action? Green light that.
In the article posted earlier her mother reported that the girl was doing badly and she is in a psychiatric ward now.
Absolutely it can ruin people’s lives being falsely accused of a crime. But on the whole these kind of accusations are rare.
We could have a whole thread on criminalising children if you’d like. It was my dissertation topic.
Originally posted by @Intiniki
We could have a whole thread on criminalising children if you’d like. It was my dissertation topic.
Bet Barry (thinks he) knows more on the topic.
Why would I? Merely saying that if proven to be of a certain intelligence (IQ and EQ) age is immaterial, is justice blind? It should be blind.
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Why would I? Merely saying that if proven to be of a certain intelligence (IQ and EQ) age is immaterial, is justice blind? It should blind.
Are you trying to establish legal foundations that’ll allow you to get away with any crime? 
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Originally posted by @pap
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Why would I? Merely saying that if proven to be of a certain intelligence (IQ and EQ) age is immaterial, is justice blind? It should blind.
Are you trying to establish legal foundations that’ll allow you to get away with any crime?
Ha ha no I feel if you make an accusation you have every right to be heard and but you have every right to be charged as well if proven false regardless of age subject to criteria, this is for all age groups and all instances as well and works both ways, believe or not I was friends or shall I say I knew Sir David Calcutt, he worked on the Bentley case “let him have it” and the following miscarriage of justice.
Bentley didn’t have the intelligence to know what he was doing or to interpret the double meaning of it, he did an awful lot case human rights cases that involved similar charges, he was a great man who came from privilege but always fought for the underdog.
Originally posted by @pap
I protested the BBC the last time that Israel were barrelling into Gaza. They had almost no balance, no real context, and presented a series of pro-Israel commentators on-screen without identifying their bias, without offering competing Palestinian opinion. They were later pulled up for it, and rightfully so.
That day was fantastic. Did the march then did my social butterfly thing in Hyde Park with complete strangers. I met people from all over the world and got all kinds of perspectives in one park in London.
Awesome. I was reading this thread last night, and saw your post Pap.
We were at the very same event then my friend! 
It was indeed a fantastic day. The energy and the buzz that was in the air, of so many coming together for the same purpose.
On the march from the BBC up to Hyde Park, I was walking up near the front with the drummers, blowing my whistle (an actual real whistle before you get other ideas Bear) like a lunatic to drive the chanting and keep it going.
A couple of personal snaps from my day: https://imgur.com/a/FHfPn
(Sorry to derail the current focus of topic)
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Some photos of the same day. For me, it doesn’t stray too far off-topic. That right there is the Britain I love; people from all walks of life, from all over the world, coming together because of their shared convictions.
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Barry, digging your teeth into the EU debate like a rapid dog to ensure the continued vexation of the papsweb gliterati is one thing. Doing the same over a much more sensitive issue of juvenilie crime/jcrimilalizing children when you know fuck all about the issues and psychology is perhaps not one of them.
Originally posted by @areloa-grandee
Barry, digging your teeth into the EU debate like a rapid dog to ensure the continued vexation of the papsweb gliterati is one thing. Doing the same over a much more sensitive issue of juvenilie crime/jcrimilalizing children when you know fuck all about the issues and psychology is perhaps not one of them.
I did say when proven, dont get your knickers in a twist.
I don’t disagree but the real beauty of the UK is our right to disagree and accept. You were in Nirvana as these people agreed with your thoughts, the real beauty is when we all think differently and accept it.
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You’re wrong but that’s ok.
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I don’t actually think it’s about a conflict of views. I accept that views may well be in conflict, which makes it all the more important to find common ground.
What are the basics that we agree on? What makes us the same?
The refugee issue cuts right to the heart of an issue that we say we all believe in, the sanctity of human life. I don’t necessarily see the supposed indelibility of that supposedly universedly shared view reflected on social media, opinion pieces, or even lately, by our own Prime Minister.
The reality is that people are dying in tents, or trying to board speeding trains, just 30 miles from our shores, because they can’t get into, or are desperately trying to get into this country. I honestly don’t have immediate solutions for all of these problems, but I do get the feeling that we’re not doing anywhere near enough compared to other countries, and am deeply concerned by the furore that has erupted over taking the bare minimum of Syrian refugees.
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which book? Mein Kampf?
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The answer is always why? Why don’t we do enough, why do they continue to come? etc ec