Bazza, this is the line that is causing offence:
“…you are simply and apologist for this attacks and rapes that have happened, you say its a conspiracy, what proof do you have?”
We’ll put the proof reading to one side 
but you are clearly, in my opinion, wide of the mark and therefore should apologise (for this statement).
The whole proof of conspiracy/ISIS planned attacks is a discussion that could be had but not after calling GA a rape apologist.
Put that one to bed first and move on mate.
Originally posted by @pap
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
So allegations go one way Pap, my position is perfectly justified, where is the evidence of ISIS involvement in New Years Eve AND if there is collusion between the two I fullly apologise but that also completely and utterley undermines the EU positon on an open door policy of asylym cases doesn’t it? Nothing untoward there and only really what Merkel is saying now, a tad late. I see the Swedish police covered up rapes as its didnt fit the EU agenda as well, am I a fascist for pointing that out or being topical?
This isn’t a court of law; this is a discussion forum in which people talk, speculate and propose theories or ideas. If you want cold, hard evidence everytime someone makes an argument, join the law profession. It’s a lot better paid. As Lou says, GA was wondering aloud, which I encourage.
You are wandering aloud, which is different.
Oh Oh I see, thats alright then.
You can tell Pap has spent a lot of his life writing clever ditties for protest boards. He’s got an eye for it. Probably honed during the Blair years.
C’mon Barry…
No, using a possibilty of collusion or spies should be discussed but its a theory not a reason for the rapes is it as yet, the reason as it stands are nasty bastards thought they could attack innocent people, thats all we know.
The proof and the remark go hand in hand.
What about a compromise?
Bazza says GA is an apologist for rape while GA says he is not. Can we settle on “apologist for frottage”?
But GA was discussing possible theories regarding these attacks. He certainly wasn’t apologizing for anything. If you think he was then can you show some proof for your assertion? If not then you should withdraw the comment and apologise.
It may be a good idea to go back and read exactly what was said and try reading it with an open mind Baz.
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Bazza, this is the line that is causing offence:
“…you are simply and apologist for this attacks and rapes that have happened, you say its a conspiracy, what proof do you have?”
We’ll put the proof reading to one side
but you are clearly, in my opinion, wide of the mark and therefore should apologise (for this statement).
The whole proof of conspiracy/ISIS planned attacks is a discussion that could be had but not after calling GA a rape apologist.
Put that one to bed first and move on mate.
The proof and the remark go hand in hand.
But GA was discussing possible theories regarding these attacks. He certainly wasn’t apologizing for anything. If you think he was then can you show some proof for your assertion? If not then you should withdraw the comment and apologise.
So as opposed to 1000 bombers, snipers and suicide killiers who have made their from the borders of Syria and beyond ISIS have sent over 1000 beige coated streakers and opportunist pervs? Do me a favour.
That’s an interesting point you’ve put forward, Barry, and I think I probably agree with you.
Just a shame it took you 10 pages of nonesense to get to a point that’s not attacking someone, and makes sense.
You’re better than this - quit playing games.
Was GA making EXCUSES for rape though Baz? Regardless of anything else.
Jesus fuck Barry. 
I’m out.
A theory was purported that would/could dilute the argument or possibility that there are too many asylym seekers in Germany and in turn serve thoughts that these events could be a series of misunderstandings and misgivings which is absolute shit.
Whilst the various voices of reason are appreciated, please dont feel obliged on my account - If Barry cant understand a simple concept that ‘speculation’ and thoughts/ideas are a natural and normal part of reasoned debate, then I suspect it’s a little pointless in trying to correct him.
I must confess to being confused. Rational minds on here suggest that barry in ‘real life’ is pretty decent and ‘nothing like his on line persona where he appears to enjoy his irritation factor’. I humbly suggest however, that feeling its OK to acuse folk of being apologists for rapists goes way beyond what is acceptable as an ‘irritation’ - its behaving like a cunt in anyone’s language (well perhaps not my nan’s).
You know what you are doing Barry, albeit in the illiterate style of a thick as shit cunt, but my big question to you is, what possible pleasure do you get from it and what is wrong/missing from a normal existence that requires you to act like such a cunt on line? Especially if you are ‘normal’ in the real world…Fair question dont you think?
You should both meet “for a chat”
No not really, your theory is codshit.
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Bazza, this is the line that is causing offence:
“…you are simply and apologist for this attacks and rapes that have happened, you say its a conspiracy, what proof do you have?”
We’ll put the proof reading to one side
The whole proof of conspiracy/ISIS planned attacks is a discussion that could be had but not after calling GA a rape apologist.
Put that one to bed first and move on mate.
The proof and the remark go hand in hand.
But GA was discussing possible theories regarding these attacks. He certainly wasn’t apologizing for anything. If you think he was then can you show some proof for your assertion? If not then you should withdraw the comment and apologise.
So as opposed to 1000 bombers, snipers and suicide killiers who have made their from the borders of Syria and beyond ISIS have sent over 1000 beige coated streakers and opportunist pervs? Do me a favour.
Was GA making EXCUSES for rape though Baz? Regardless of anything else.
A theory was purported that would/could dilute the argument or possibility that there are too many asylym seekers in Germany and in turn serve thoughts that these events could be a series of misunderstandings and misgivings which is absolute shit.
I understand that that’s how you interpretted GA’s post Baz, but I think that says more about you than GA. It’s like you’re having a conversation with yourself, preparing your answers for questions you’ve already thought of, ploughing the furrow that you want to plough. Then when someone elae joins in you apply your train of thought to whatever they post and jump to conclusions in order to drag everyone back to your furrow.
The world according to Baz Never Wrong Sanchez.
It’s easy to think you are always right if you only hear what you want to hear.
Now please, be a good bloke and say sorry for calling GA a rape apologist, which he is clearly not (and you know it), however much you want him to be.
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Bazza, this is the line that is causing offence:
“…you are simply and apologist for this attacks and rapes that have happened, you say its a conspiracy, what proof do you have?”
We’ll put the proof reading to one side
The whole proof of conspiracy/ISIS planned attacks is a discussion that could be had but not after calling GA a rape apologist.
Put that one to bed first and move on mate.
The proof and the remark go hand in hand.
But GA was discussing possible theories regarding these attacks. He certainly wasn’t apologizing for anything. If you think he was then can you show some proof for your assertion? If not then you should withdraw the comment and apologise.
So as opposed to 1000 bombers, snipers and suicide killiers who have made their from the borders of Syria and beyond ISIS have sent over 1000 beige coated streakers and opportunist pervs? Do me a favour.
Was GA making EXCUSES for rape though Baz? Regardless of anything else.
A theory was purported that would/could dilute the argument or possibility that there are too many asylym seekers in Germany and in turn serve thoughts that these events could be a series of misunderstandings and misgivings which is absolute shit.
I understand that that’s how you interpretted GA’s post Baz, but I think that says more about you than GA. It’s like you’re having a conversation with yourself, preparing your answers for questions you’ve already thought of, ploughing the furrow that you want to plough. Then when someone elae joins in you apply your train of thought to whatever they post and jump to conclusions in order to drag everyone back to your furrow.
The world according to Baz Never Wrong Sanchez.
It’s easy to think you are always right if you only hear what you want to hear.
Now please, be a good bloke and say sorry for calling GA a rape apologist, which he is clearly not (and you know it), however much you want him to be.
How can you assume a theory without any belief in it?
And I am wrong many many times and always front up and apologise.
NO Barry - this is made up. A theory was NOT put forward to dilute any argument about too many asylum seekers in Germany - nor was any theory put forwrad that suggests such hideous acts were ‘misunderstandings’? how the flying fuck does your mind work if you make this shit up from what was posted here… seriously lacking an abilty to fucking read and comprehend - go back to school.
A speculative thought was put forward that based on a the FACT that these hideous attacks have now seen a shift in attitude towards the migrants, distrust, and a rational concern (given the nature of the crimes committed). The resulting recent ‘mob’ backlash shows how this mistrust can quickly turn to something more violent.
This mistrust, and potential for further breakdown in relations between migrant and local community is exactly the type of thing ISIS want, fearing any unity of purpose between western and muslim cultures (which the majority stand for). The speculation and thought was very simple; that the frequency and timing of the assults could have been in some way coordinated? as it is the exact sort of cuntish thing ISIS would possible consider - the aim of which is to breed division. Whether thsi speculation has any merit or not I dont know, whether its bull or a possible, I dont know. BUT the attacks HAVE cause the shift in attitudes that ISIS would want to see. The last thing they want is unity against the common enemy which is them.
Now please explain to me how this is an apology for rapists?.. I wont hold my breath because you seem hell bent on making yourself look more of a cunt with every fucking word.
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Bazza, this is the line that is causing offence:
“…you are simply and apologist for this attacks and rapes that have happened, you say its a conspiracy, what proof do you have?”
We’ll put the proof reading to one side
The whole proof of conspiracy/ISIS planned attacks is a discussion that could be had but not after calling GA a rape apologist.
Put that one to bed first and move on mate.
The proof and the remark go hand in hand.
But GA was discussing possible theories regarding these attacks. He certainly wasn’t apologizing for anything. If you think he was then can you show some proof for your assertion? If not then you should withdraw the comment and apologise.
So as opposed to 1000 bombers, snipers and suicide killiers who have made their from the borders of Syria and beyond ISIS have sent over 1000 beige coated streakers and opportunist pervs? Do me a favour.
Was GA making EXCUSES for rape though Baz? Regardless of anything else.
A theory was purported that would/could dilute the argument or possibility that there are too many asylym seekers in Germany and in turn serve thoughts that these events could be a series of misunderstandings and misgivings which is absolute shit.
I understand that that’s how you interpretted GA’s post Baz, but I think that says more about you than GA. It’s like you’re having a conversation with yourself, preparing your answers for questions you’ve already thought of, ploughing the furrow that you want to plough. Then when someone else joins in you apply your train of thought to whatever they post and jump to conclusions in order to drag everyone back to your furrow.
The world according to Baz Never Wrong Sanchez.
It’s easy to think you are always right if you only hear what you want to hear.
Now please, be a good bloke and say sorry for calling GA a rape apologist, which he is clearly not (and you know it), however much you want him to be.
How can you assume a theory without any belief in it?
And I am wrong many many times and always front up and apologise.
What does ‘assume’ a theory mean?
Is your question: How can we theorize without believing the theory to be true?
Theorize: speculate, conjecture, hypothesize, take as a hypothesis, postulate, form/formulate a theory, propose, posit, surmise, suppose, guess;