I should not bite, but some things need correcting…
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Originally posted by @areloa-grandee
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @areloa-grandee
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Jesus its a conspiracy? If thats the case then the incident in Cologne could be an extreme left conspiracy? All this proves is that assimiation is far more difficult than a politiian expects, all hatred is wrong and I point the finger towards the politicians and religious affiltiation over a Nation state and its fellow citizens, if people think they are solely responsible to a false God over the laws of the land then something is very very wrong.
Barry, the point is that the distrust, divisions etc caused by these attacks and counter attacjks are exactly what the likes of ISIS want… it is not too far fetched to assume that thsoe who carried out the initial assults were at least aware of this if not ‘encouraged’ to carry them out. What begins as a crime, escalates to ‘mobs’ attacking refugees… is it really that far fetched to assume this was not the plan all along?
On this occasion it is a load of bollocks, you are simply and apologist for this attacks and rapes that have happened, you say its a conspiracy, what proof do you have? I have seen videos, what have you got? You are talking bollocks as per when it comes to the EU and its soft apologist liberal wankscafens.
Have the bollocks to condemn all not just some that suit your selfish ideolistic bullshit theory.
Hey? I have it on the authority of those who have met you, that you a re decnet bloke and only post thsi sort of stuff to get a reaction… very nawty, but I will indulge you with a response as you seem to have completely misinterpreted EVERYTHING i have said.
‘‘an apologist for rapes and attacks’’ - this is quite frankly at best insulting Barry - there is nothing in my opinion or post to suggest this. You have made it up- its a pretty shameful and shitty acusation
This has nothing to do with the EU…
Liberal wank ?
selfish ideolistic (sic)? WTF?
To repeat so that you can understand.
There were multiple sexual assults at New Year committed by complete and utter evil cunts. Irresective of race, colour, religion, background- anyone who does this is an evil cunt in my book.
It is suggested they were all/part were committed by those recent migrants
The fact that these horrific assults were alledgedly conducted by migrants plays into ISIS hands as it naturally creates suspicion, distrust and division/tension between the German population and the migrants
The response from ‘mobs attacking migrants’ suggests this tension and division in real
The very simple point that I was making/suggesting was that given such tensions were what ISIS is wanting (they fear nothing more than unity between majority of Muslims and Western Culture), its not too far fetched to suggest that the INITIAL ASSULTS were maybe in some way planned by ISIS or their sympathizers - especially when it appears to have been multiple assults over a very short period of time. Whether planned or not, the result is exactly what ISIS want - distrust, disunity and tension.
So how the flyting fuck you go form the above to your accustaions is beyond me. You owe me a fucking huge apology for suggesting I was an apologist for sexual assult or rape. That Barry is out of fucking order.
You are insinuating the authorties helped fan the flames of the beatings that happened, of course its want ISIS want that obvious and that wasnt the point I was disagreeing with, it was the hint that the powers that be wanted this to happen to soften opinion against due to their actions.
You are in short saying their are hidden agendas everywhere, are you saying ISIS or the authorities orchestrated the intitial violence or the attacks afterwards? What are you saying, and what proof do you have?
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @areloa-grandee
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Originally posted by @areloa-grandee
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Jesus its a conspiracy? If thats the case then the incident in Cologne could be an extreme left conspiracy? All this proves is that assimiation is far more difficult than a politiian expects, all hatred is wrong and I point the finger towards the politicians and religious affiltiation over a Nation state and its fellow citizens, if people think they are solely responsible to a false God over the laws of the land then something is very very wrong.
Barry, the point is that the distrust, divisions etc caused by these attacks and counter attacjks are exactly what the likes of ISIS want… it is not too far fetched to assume that thsoe who carried out the initial assults were at least aware of this if not ‘encouraged’ to carry them out. What begins as a crime, escalates to ‘mobs’ attacking refugees… is it really that far fetched to assume this was not the plan all along?
On this occasion it is a load of bollocks, you are simply and apologist for this attacks and rapes that have happened, you say its a conspiracy, what proof do you have? I have seen videos, what have you got? You are talking bollocks as per when it comes to the EU and its soft apologist liberal wankscafens.
Have the bollocks to condemn all not just some that suit your selfish ideolistic bullshit theory.
Hey? I have it on the authority of those who have met you, that you a re decnet bloke and only post thsi sort of stuff to get a reaction… very nawty, but I will indulge you with a response as you seem to have completely misinterpreted EVERYTHING i have said.
‘‘an apologist for rapes and attacks’’ - this is quite frankly at best insulting Barry - there is nothing in my opinion or post to suggest this. You have made it up- its a pretty shameful and shitty acusation
This has nothing to do with the EU…
Liberal wank ?
selfish ideolistic (sic)? WTF?
To repeat so that you can understand.
There were multiple sexual assults at New Year committed by complete and utter evil cunts. Irresective of race, colour, religion, background- anyone who does this is an evil cunt in my book.
It is suggested they were all/part were committed by those recent migrants
The fact that these horrific assults were alledgedly conducted by migrants plays into ISIS hands as it naturally creates suspicion, distrust and division/tension between the German population and the migrants
The response from ‘mobs attacking migrants’ suggests this tension and division in real
The very simple point that I was making/suggesting was that given such tensions were what ISIS is wanting (they fear nothing more than unity between majority of Muslims and Western Culture), its not too far fetched to suggest that the INITIAL ASSULTS were maybe in some way planned by ISIS or their sympathizers - especially when it appears to have been multiple assults over a very short period of time. Whether planned or not, the result is exactly what ISIS want - distrust, disunity and tension.
So how the flyting fuck you go form the above to your accustaions is beyond me. You owe me a fucking huge apology for suggesting I was an apologist for sexual assult or rape. That Barry is out of fucking order.
You are insinuating the authorties helped fan the flames of the beatings that happened, of course its want ISIS want that obvious and that wasnt the point I was disagreeing with, it was the hint that the powers that be wanted this to happen to soften opinion against due to their actions.
You are in short saying their are hidden agendas everywhere, are you saying ISIS or the authorities orchestrated the intitial violence or the attacks afterwards? What are you saying, and what proof do you have?
Since when were ISIS ‘authorities’? you still owe me that apology Barry
… not worth debating with you barry as you insist on seeing things that are not there in an effort to irritate. I will react if I continue. But if you have any balls, at least man up and retract the accustaion that I am somehow andapologist for those committing sexual assult or rape. That is not open for debate. retract, apologise or fuck off.
You haven’t answered the question and no I wont apologise, either you believe in ISIS interference or you dont, simply implying and saying its an option is bollcoks, its non commital and pulling the pin when you know its inflammatory,
I fucked off from Saintsweb to escape this kind of drivel.
The analogy that’s often used for forums is that of a pub. If so, Bazza’s on a one man mission to turn this place into one with a flat roof and a St George’s cross in the window.
At least punctuate properly, FFS.
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I’ve been busy today, and covered the sensationalist aspect of this post earlier on. Now that I’ve seen the additional posts, thought I should probably weigh in on what has gotten Gay Abandon all upset.
You’re out of order for calling Gay Abandon a rape apologist. His post was about how these attacks ultimately feed extremist groups like ISIS, and that they may have had a part in organising one of these incidents. I took it to mean the incidents that spawned this thread, which makes sense to me. They want discord and distrust; only takes a couple of ringleaders to corral the sheep. Let the mob rule of people who have no fucking idea of how that country works do the rest.
I don’t know how you get from his post to rape apologist. When considering your performance on this thread, I get a mental picture of a kid with a fucking firearm. Thinks he’s able to handle the ordnance and ammunition, but really, doesn’t get any of it, least of all how dangerous it is. This is a thread about sexual assault, rape and racism - as such, it’s the last place for your infantile games of oneupmanship or your thinly-veiled agenda of “all them foreign fuckers, eh?”.
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Originally posted by @pap
Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
Barry, the point is that the distrust, divisions etc caused by these attacks and counter attacjks are exactly what the likes of ISIS want… it is not too far fetched to assume that thsoe who carried out the initial assults were at least aware of this if not ‘encouraged’ to carry them out. What begins as a crime, escalates to ‘mobs’ attacking refugees… is it really that far fetched to assume this was not the plan all along?
On this occasion it is a load of bollocks, you are simply and apologist for this attacks and rapes that have happened, you say its a conspiracy, what proof do you have? I have seen videos, what have you got? You are talking bollocks as per when it comes to the EU and its soft apologist liberal wankscafens.
Have the bollocks to condemn all not just some that suit your selfish ideolistic bullshit theory.
I’ve been busy today, and covered the sensationalist aspect of this post earlier on. Now that I’ve seen the additional posts, thought I should probably weigh in on what has gotten Gay Abandon all upset.
You’re out of order for calling Gay Abandon a rape apologist. His post was about how these attacks ultimately feed extremist groups like ISIS, and that they may have had a part in organising one of these incidents. I took it to mean the incidents that spawned this thread, which makes sense to me. They want discord and distrust; only takes a couple of ringleaders to corral the sheep. Let the mob rule of people who have no fucking idea of how that country works do the rest.
I don’t know how you get from his post to rape apologist. When considering your performance on this thread, I get a mental picture of a kid with a fucking firearm. Thinks he’s able to handle the ordnance and ammunition, but really, doesn’t get any of it, least of all how dangerous it is. This is a thread about sexual assault, rape and racism - as such, it’s the last place for your infantile games of oneupmanship or your thinly-veiled agenda of “all them foreign fuckers, eh?”.
I resent that insinuation as well Pap at the end of your scribe, (by onemanship into your post I am reading you concede there is an element of truth or something that resonates but you simply can not bring yourself to agree) where have I ever said that (fucking foreigners)? What makes it correct for me to be attacked for a popular view and one that is actually correct (or one so the politicians are reacting to) .
No one wants an echo chamber a you say and I am not about to join the people who wish to see this brushed over, it happens all the time.
Pap - you’re giving Barry an out with the “foreign fuckers” claim. While Barry tends to get quite hysterical over issues like this and quick on the draw accusing people of being liberal apologists, I don’t think that necessarily the same as an anti foreigner viewpoint (though you probably have more history of Barry’s posts than me).
But everything else is spot on.
Barry quit being such a mean shit and making nasty accusations over nothing at other people. You don’t like when people do it to you, so you should know better. Gay seems pretty harmless on this forum, and unfair you targeting him like this. You misunderstood him and you know it. If you want a decent debate, then debate in a decent way. Good god!
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I dont need an out Lou, mock shock indignation i something I dont do, neither is hypocrisy, I’m not going to bleat.
If GA’s theory of infiltration by ISIS into Germany is to be believed or even given serious thought then it should be discussed, if not its simply a distraction from the discussion as I have never heard this view seriously before.
Your post to TheCholulaKid is an instance of the oneupmanship. Your contributions are continuing evidence of your ignorance and need to distort to get anywhere near to making a point. Your entire case rests on this exceptional attack being about to come “the usual state of affairs”, you ignore the input of others, get the complete wrong end of the stick on GA’s post, call him a rape apologist on the basis of flying off the handle, then lack the grace to quickly correct something that could have been sorted in a jif, and never should have been said in the first place.
I don’t want an echo chamber, but on this and other evidence, you’re not the man to provide the balance. On this evidence, I’ll be calling you immediately the next time I want a thick cunt to dispense opinions & allegations without reading or understanding anything that is going on, or doing anything to justify his own position.
Sorry if that smarts, Bazza - I’ve sung nicer songs about you but won’t be doing so again unless you can change the fucking record.
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He was clearly just wondering aloud. There has been enough guess work on this topic without actual facts to hand, to make one more guess just a drop in the ocean. It didn’t warrant a full on Barry blast of outrage. I get your argument, but this example didn’t deserve it.
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This is where you say sorry for causing offence and we all move on with big hugz baz 
So allegations go one way Pap, my position is perfectly justified, where is the evidence of ISIS involvement in New Years Eve AND if there is collusion between the two I fullly apologise but that also completely and utterley undermines the EU positon on an open door policy of asylym cases doesn’t it? Nothing untoward there and only really what Merkel is saying now, a tad late. I see the Swedish police covered up rapes as its didnt fit the EU agenda as well, am I a fascist for pointing that out or being topical?
Hugz/handjobz
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Too fucking late, Fatso. Where were you an hour ago?
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Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez
So allegations go one way Pap, my position is perfectly justified, where is the evidence of ISIS involvement in New Years Eve AND if there is collusion between the two I fullly apologise but that also completely and utterley undermines the EU positon on an open door policy of asylym cases doesn’t it? Nothing untoward there and only really what Merkel is saying now, a tad late. I see the Swedish police covered up rapes as its didnt fit the EU agenda as well, am I a fascist for pointing that out or being topical?
This isn’t a court of law; this is a discussion forum in which people talk, speculate and propose theories or ideas. If you want cold, hard evidence everytime someone makes an argument, join the law profession. It’s a lot better paid. As Lou says, GA was wondering aloud, which I encourage.
You are wandering aloud, which is different.
You’re also demanding evidence for whatever shit you want proved, but have provided zero for the idea that one of your fellow posters is the horrible thing you’ve deduced he is.
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Clever
I post on another board where some handjobz were needed. Soz.
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