đŸ‡»đŸ‡Ș Same old story in Venezuela?

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Like the EU? Why is has he been recognised as the interim president? Why do Australia now see him as president?

You’re swinging at thin air and mock shock indignation for a failed state and it has been for years is laughable, if it were a stable state this wouldn’t be happening.

I’m now expecting long winded quotes from a man in a batcave in Arkansas to back up a coup.

Regime change is the word you’re looking for and that happens everywhere, can to comment on Soviet regime change and the stoking up of tensions in areas they want to control for their nations security buffer?

Georgia?

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Back on topic please bazza. So you see it’s all about regime change and you’re good with that? I’m not saying Maduro is a wonderful leader but he was elected in free, fair and transparent elections. What the fuck has it got to do with the US, the EU or anyone else?

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No I not naive enough to know it doesn’t happen, it happens everywhere.

Why haven’t Russia, Cuba and Turkey come out and helped?

If you condemn this you have to condemn all of Russia’s puppet training and regime changes its sponsored all over its ex satellite states.

Thats even, balanced and fair.

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Back on topic with your whataboutery.
https://twitter.com/RichardBurgon/status/1089620500882558976

All tinfoil hatters obviously.

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No you’re talking about a paid coup when these want mediation, huge difference.

Still not answering about your Russian pals?

Surprise


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It’s about Venezuela Barry - not Russia. Keep on topic.

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They’re not. A lot are in Colombia, Ecuador and Brazil. We know from many countries where there’s an exodus that they end up in neighbouring countries. Ecuador is going to crack down on this as Venezuelan man killed his Ecuadorian partner.
They may go to the USA as they have family there. When Chavez came in many wealthy Venezuelans left then. A bit like in Cuba they went to USA.
Did you watch goatboy video? Or are you just going to argue a different side just for fun?

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You can’t ignore what others have done though.

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Why is that relevant to Venezuela though?

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Why does every thread have to be polluted by your rampant russophobia Barry?

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Have a sweepstake. How many times on a thread not about Russia, will Barry mention Russia in a single day?
I’ll go for a dozen.
This article could be written about him.

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I don’t usually stray far from the Saints threads on here but this Venezuela shite has forced my hand.

I highly recommend people read this book if they want an insight in to what is happening before us and why. It is a real eye opener.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1626566747/ref=dp_ob_neva_mobile

If reading ain’t your thing then have a gander at this video.

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So you are saying that Forbes magazine, founded in 1917, a global media company respected the world over for their expertise in business, investment, technology and entrepreneurship are a ‘tin foil hat site’? Jesus fucking wept Barry, the likes of Trump, Bonkers Bolton and the rest of them must get down on their knees every night and thank whichever God they pray to for gullible people like you. I believe the accepted phrase is ‘useful idiot’.

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Where have I said what the US administration is good?

You’re all playing the poster and if you condemn one you have to condemn all otherwise you’re a hypocrite, this isn’t rocket science.

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Do you agree with what the US, UK and various other warmongers, have said about the democratically elected leader of Venezuela and their false, undemocratic, claims about their puppet that refused to stand in elections?
Basically, do you believe in democracy and the will of the people, or not?

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I think this is the post that we are ‘playing’ bazza.

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Batshit Bolton:
https://twitter.com/AmbJohnBolton/status/1089618457166036993
https://twitter.com/AmbJohnBolton/status/1089569353421463554

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https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/1088954489963466752

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Of course I do.

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You believe the lies of the west, or the right of Venezuelans to self determination, without any outside interference?