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The sanctions are the start of it, sanctions and a protracted guerrilla war which will sap Russian morale never to attempt this again, can you ever remember the last time nearly the whole World was united like this?

Even China doesn’t seem particularly up for it in their comments, Russia slowing the internet, restricting facebook, twitter and banning the word invasion, large protests inside Russia and even bigger outside from places with questionable human rights records such as Azerbaijan.
I bet if Putin could turn the clock back he would, he can’t and the best he can do and should do if get his men out of Ukraine and Georgia (that will erupt soon as Georgians will see quite rightly their chance to throw off their oppressor) and get to the table and negotiate a peace and Russia accepting a nations right to determine their own future.

1176, right @gavstar?

Ummm
 John?

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Meanwhile
Polish TV Channel has launched a domestic Terrestial Ukrainian language channel here today to help keep refugees informed

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TV
Reports & interviews emerging where young Russian conscripts saying they were told they were going on training exercises

(I know)

But IF real could change the motivation & dynamic & explain how they were kicked out of Kharkiv so fast.

Lots of fast jet noise overhead here prob F35s & refuelling tankers
:scream:

Ha Ha clowns. Siberia for them on return.

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Putin has achieved one thing the US could never do

Get Germany to spend 2% of GDP on the military- just been voted through

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No wonder. They’ll want another crack at it now Putin has broken the ice.

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He wants land and he is not bothered about NATO, he never was, its a huge ruse swallowed by apologists.
When has NATO invaded Russia before?

Russia famously being short of land and all that.

To be fair a lot of their land is shit

Cold, covered in gulags etc - who wants to live there

He is after a bit of French Riviera chic

There is the irony, why is he invading?
He doesn’t view it as a country and he wants to return it to the Soviet days, a relic, a dinosaur and he will lose but sadly so will the Russians and Ukrainians.

Well, you can see why taking Chernobyl was apparently a priority :smiley:

Yes, Chernobyl is seen as an improvement over the far east, that says a lot.

Many a true word is spoken in jest.

Now the world has kicked the Russians out of the swift payment system, why don’t they Chuck them out of visa and the other things

Most knew this but at what point will Putin realise he totally underestimated his population, the west reaction and the Ukrainians resistance?

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