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Only Part 2? I thought Saddam was the new Hitler. Putin at least Hitler Part 3.

What makes them all similar, do you think?

They’re all pricks?

It can’t be moustaches unless Putin has some Henry Cavill Justice League theatrical shit going down.

Who said Saddam Hussein was Hitler? A sectarian dictator yes.

Ethnic Germans for Ethnic Russians, faux genocide and in they roll, these breakaway areas are proxies so he can invade Ukraine, the west did nothing when he invaded Georgia in 2008 and Crimea in 2014, if you scroll up I wrote something like (in respect of Russia) the bear only respects pain and its true but its very sad millions will be displaced and die for a madman wanting to roll the clock back, he’ll lose as well, the Soviets lost in Afghanistan and they had to come to an agreement after so many deaths (the effects of that war scar many Russians) in Chechnya.
Ukraine will not roll over and with the west supplying arms and many many more javelins it will be needless deaths when he should simply allow a sovereign nation to be allowed to decides for itself,
Putin can now expect what he said (he is lying as he is not arsed about missiles being pointed at him in the slightest) he didn’t want, 1000’s more troops on the borders of NATO with said missiles pointing at Russia.

They all rode bare chested on horse back?

I’m hearing Russian convoys are already going in the Donbas and Luhansk regions, its as if this was planned all along…

Where are you hearing this from?

Well twitter, internet, laptop screen, iphone messaging.
The usual.

Its not true though, he is a lovely man really, you just have to get to know him…

And the way Putin ordered his council to swear to agreeing to recognising the two breakaway regions is key, its key as he is apportioning blame and responsibility, very scary indeed, he is out alone and he is making these decisions, that is scary.

All verified sources naturally.

God do you think we really rely on you for news because you think we’re too stupid to look ourselves obviously :roll_eyes::joy:

I’m not Barry, I won’t retort to such vile advances, you asked a question and I replied, go and have a look and see whats happening, after reading this are you prepared now to say your stance concerning Putin and Russia was wrong?

He is a madman,condemning millions to displacement and death all over his old Soviet fantasies. Corbyn as well has been hung out to dry for his Chamberlainesque speech today, I admire the man but he is either wilfully stupid or painfully naive.

We seem to have a lot of Putin supporters on here. Personally I haven’t read a lot into this - I live in a simplified world where if a country is trying to take over another sovereign country, they’re usually in the wrong.

Can someone please explain why Putin is in the right here?

I don’t think there are a lot of, as you put it, ā€œPutin supportersā€ on here.

Personally, having looked at the way the Russia, USA and the UK have been involved in geopolitics over the years, the rhetoric coming from both sides needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. The truth is somewhere in the middle, probably. Substitute Ukraine with a n other country from past crises and it all seem similar, albeit this time Putin appears to be raising the stakes. But hey, I’m no pseudo political expert.

Grow up. :roll_eyes:

Well the ā€œpeacekeepingā€ forces are rolling into the separatist regions.

I suspect he will flood them with soldiers, hold elections whilst enfranchising those soldiers and claim legitimacy.

Thats assuming that those Soldiers stop there

Usually. But imagine the UK was broken up in a hurry and say, Cumbria and Northumberland both ended up being in Scotland. Then imagine that our traditional competitors decide to put nukes in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Then imagine that by law, anyone in those left behind people in Cumbria and Northumberland had to do things like change their names to Scottish variants against a backdrop of ultra-Scottish nationalism.

Then imagine those places getting shelled by Scotland, as it tries to assert its power over ā€œitsā€ sovereign soil.

Would you support UK troops going into those areas in those circumstances?