Nothing to do with this debate and everything to do with grifters jumping on a populist bandwagon to retain power.. not a fine example of tne human spirit is itâŚ
And please do find time to answer the various questions posed which you conveniently ignore: The big one being your evidence for why abuse is more likely yo be committed by specific ethnic communitiesâŚ
Go back and actually read my posts and you will see you have just made an arse of yourself (not for the first or last tome I suspect) - anyway thought you had fucked off?
Is it? Where have I said that? Iâve said this has been a cover up due to cultural sensitivities and fear of offence, that has already been admitted, youâre not doing too well here, anyway Iâm off for a run.
Iâve read your posts, and it amounts to your usual sanctimonious bullshit. You continue to deflect from the inquiry under discussion, which is absolutely specific in itâs scope and being undermined in a way the victims feel to be unacceptable. You keep asserting that itâs not an ethnic or cultural issue when this specific inquiry plainly is; exclusively Pakistani men were operating in organised groups to groom and assault exclusively white girls, this can hardly be claimed to hold no ethnic implications. And I note from your last reply to Barry that, as usual, you play the empathy card. Again.
This is your usual response when you fail to understand and are shown to have made a mistake- just call someone sanctimonious - You have failed with any subtlety in what is a difficult and sensitive situation. Victims need justice and focus on their cases - no one has argued against this
The fact that the the abusers in these cases were from a specific community is clear
The fact that they were from this ethnic community is what creates the sensitivity given that there are those only too willing to suggest such activity is more likely within these communities than others as we have seen - there is NO evidence that this is the case and none will be produced yet the far right will make mileage from it
Were the various governments since 2001 wrong not to demand a full investigation into all cases regardless of cultural sensitivities? YES
Does this inquiry need to focus on this? YES (The issue with the poor investigations)
I am at a loss as to why you and Bargy are shouting at cloudsâŚ
The ISSUE is that itâs very easy for those that want to, to create an urban myth that people from these ethnic backgrounds are more likely to abuse women and girls than others? Do you believe this to be the true?
No you want to push that and gas light, what are the official figures per capita by the way?
My point has always been and we can agree on this (I doubt youâll acknowledge it as I donât think itâs in your character) reform and others will make capital out of a cover up (which I believe is happening) and the cowardice of mainstream politicians has led us here.
In turn due to inaction on this and boats coming over reform will gain power, you may not like it, I donât but itâs a reality youâll have to face at some point.
Trump is the US president you know, no denying it will change that, sorry.
The ideal of stop the boats has taken hold and grown so much that its driving itself and is easily the biggest talking point of this year politically, irrespective of Farage policy is now being written by them as the mainstream try to catch up and connect, Farage doesnât have to do anything, his policies are being enacted to a degree 4 years before an election without him in power, the mere spectre of that terrifies the big 2, hence you now see this duplicitous attitude towards immigration when years ago theyâd have told him to fuck off and call everyone espousing such views a racist, people arenât soft and see through this, how mpâs will sell their very soul to stay in power, Jess Philips is such a person.