:labour: 🌅 Red Dawn - Life Under Labour

Nothing to do with this debate and everything to do with grifters jumping on a populist bandwagon to retain power.. not a fine example of tne human spirit is it…

And please do find time to answer the various questions posed which you conveniently ignore: The big one being your evidence for why abuse is more likely yo be committed by specific ethnic communities…

Go back and actually read my posts and you will see you have just made an arse of yourself (not for the first or last tome I suspect) - anyway thought you had fucked off?

To make it simple for you

Is it? Where have I said that? I’ve said this has been a cover up due to cultural sensitivities and fear of offence, that has already been admitted, you’re not doing too well here, anyway I’m off for a run.

Your problem is that you just don’t read and comprehend but instead jump in with more projected nonsense

I’ve read your posts, and it amounts to your usual sanctimonious bullshit. You continue to deflect from the inquiry under discussion, which is absolutely specific in it’s scope and being undermined in a way the victims feel to be unacceptable. You keep asserting that it’s not an ethnic or cultural issue when this specific inquiry plainly is; exclusively Pakistani men were operating in organised groups to groom and assault exclusively white girls, this can hardly be claimed to hold no ethnic implications. And I note from your last reply to Barry that, as usual, you play the empathy card. Again.

On Saturday, I hope our defence is a belligerent as youse fuckers are.

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This is your usual response when you fail to understand and are shown to have made a mistake- just call someone sanctimonious - You have failed with any subtlety in what is a difficult and sensitive situation. Victims need justice and focus on their cases - no one has argued against this

The fact that the the abusers in these cases were from a specific community is clear

The fact that they were from this ethnic community is what creates the sensitivity given that there are those only too willing to suggest such activity is more likely within these communities than others as we have seen - there is NO evidence that this is the case and none will be produced yet the far right will make mileage from it

Were the various governments since 2001 wrong not to demand a full investigation into all cases regardless of cultural sensitivities? YES

Does this inquiry need to focus on this? YES (The issue with the poor investigations)

I am at a loss as to why you and Bargy are shouting at clouds…

The ISSUE is that it’s very easy for those that want to, to create an urban myth that people from these ethnic backgrounds are more likely to abuse women and girls than others? Do you believe this to be the true?

No you want to push that and gas light, what are the official figures per capita by the way?

My point has always been and we can agree on this (I doubt you’ll acknowledge it as I don’t think it’s in your character) reform and others will make capital out of a cover up (which I believe is happening) and the cowardice of mainstream politicians has led us here.

In turn due to inaction on this and boats coming over reform will gain power, you may not like it, I don’t but it’s a reality you’ll have to face at some point.

Trump is the US president you know, no denying it will change that, sorry.

Anyone remember that Kevin “bloody” Wilson song “That fucking cat’s back. How did he do that?”

well one of the migrants we flew back to France has turned up again on a small boat

If only domeone had posted that
Oh wait
It got swamped by fighting egos

Soz - I missed it laughing too much

Last week it was me bashing my head against the wall of MoT

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Best to imagine they don’t exist. Don’t even read them
:winking_face_with_tongue::wink::roll_eyes:

Starmer about to say something

No. Keep them at it. Givinge plenty of entertainment, waiting at SF Airport for flight to Houston.

Nice. Labour get eleven percent in Caerphilly and the Reform slags were locked out.

Reform might bitch about tactical voting but if that’s true they’re fuckwd.

Tactical voting means we want anyone other than you.

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TBF they went from 1.2% in 2021 to 36% and there was a non mainstream party to vote for

reckon it’s going to be different in England

They’ve got more chance of getting ripped in Wales as their elections are going PR for the Senate

People are discounting tactical voting because the polls can’t currently reflect it.

As contests develop i think we’ll see big swings to the most credible not Reform candidate.

That is hardly a celebration of democracy, they did this in France and now its ungovernable and the right will still get in next time.

No it isn’t, but that’s the way it is.

The lesser of two evils. I think that by time the election rolls around, Reform are going to be victims of their own excess in success.

Sarah Poachin is already complaining about seeing non-whites in TV adverts. It doesn’t go down well.

Leaving aside the fact that more people loathe Farage than like him, who else have Reform got that is professional and isn’t a failed Tory?

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The ideal of stop the boats has taken hold and grown so much that its driving itself and is easily the biggest talking point of this year politically, irrespective of Farage policy is now being written by them as the mainstream try to catch up and connect, Farage doesn’t have to do anything, his policies are being enacted to a degree 4 years before an election without him in power, the mere spectre of that terrifies the big 2, hence you now see this duplicitous attitude towards immigration when years ago they’d have told him to fuck off and call everyone espousing such views a racist, people aren’t soft and see through this, how mp’s will sell their very soul to stay in power, Jess Philips is such a person.