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What I wrote there is clear, to whether you’ve the capacity to absorb that is different, this isn’t incest its cultural. White Christian girls were totally or predominantly the victims.

May I ask what part of the smorgasbord of multiculturalism do you live?

There was never any shying away from the fact that the priests involved were Catholic, or the factors which enabled their abusive behaviour (vows of celibacy combined with proximity to pubescent boys, etc.) The investigations never said “oh, it’s just a few unspecified individuals of indeterminate faith and ethnic background, there’s nothing to worry about, far worse things happen at sea…” and so on. And predictably, those arguing here against transparency in the current investigation will dredge up statistics which ignore the fact that for the time being at least, white British greatly outnumber other ethnic backgrounds, so it’s obviously easy to deflect by asserting there are more white offenders in general.

I used to live on East Ham High street - It was a great example of multiculturalism. You seem hell bent on painting a picture that there is none of it or its impossible which is exactly the kind of shit Farage or Robinson Yaxely-Cunt would come out with. You are either trolling or an apologist for the creating further division over what is a challenging and complex issue. I just wish you had the balls to tell truthfully what you believe because no matter how much say you would hate a Farage Government, you seem happy to continue to spread the overly simplistic narrative that appeals to the less well educated idiots who believe his shit

Who is arguing against transparency? No one. Just against an almost desperate BS to make an association between Ethnicity and this sexual violence when there is none. Its just a concentration if cunts in one place that is being used to stir up suspicion and hate towards whole communities. The example of Priests and churches was to illustrate the point of concentrating cunts in one place and battering the whole community… exactly what we are seeing in these Northern towns

There is no excuse for fucking up deliberately or otherwise any investigation over last 24 years - but neither is there any for suggesting its because these cunts are of a specific ethnic origin, and its this lack of integration or cultural differences… that us simply not true.

That’s precisely the neat dismissal of the victims under discussion here that I would expect from you. Read what they’ve said about why they left the inquiry, then tell us again that it’s nothing to do with ethnicity or culture. You’ll be telling us next that they were asking for it.

Really? Do you actually believe all the shit you sometimes spout… Jeez, maybe read that back and come back when you have a sensible thought. I wont hold my breath - that’s your sickest joke yet, but I wont expect an apology, judging by your record.

The Victims who left the inquiry were concerned that those leading it would broaden the narrative beyond their specific cases which is fair and valid point. They were not suggesting that their experience was linked to culture or ethnicity, but that ethnicity was being used as an excuse not to carry out a thorough investigation into why their cases where so badly or not investigated at all. If the investigation was broadened, then their own experience would become less relevant and so the reasons for their lack of justice lost…That is a subtle but extremely important point which seems to have gone over your and your new best Pal’s head

The alternative is that you believe that ethnicity and culture makes this community more likely to commit such crimes than any other race or religion? If this is the case, please provide your evidence that supports such a claim.

I’m done debating with you. Your position on everything is pretty clear, and it’s tedious beyond endurance. You obviously haven’t even bothered to read the reasons given by the victims for their abandonment of the inquiry, and you clearly have no interest in it because it contradicts your own narrow narrative.

I have read numerous articles - but please do stop debating with me and go back to sick shitty jokes - obviously more your level

Used to isn’t relevant especially when it’s as a poor example as a national front, bnp, reform, brexit stronghold as that, it just proves you lived in a bubble.

Where now?

So you have to live in a Brexit, BNP, NF stronghold yo have an opinion on this? Do you realise how stupid that sounds… if there are community divisions in these places its not surprizing if they are saturated with Far Right racists… Jeez. you are tying yourself in knots…

Say you’ve never been to Northern mill towns without saying it, you’ve no empathy only excuses, you think you know but you haven’t lived it at all, you’d shit yourself quite literally if you went to some places in Oldham, Rochdale and Blackburn.

No, hold on breathe and think, I know the area you mentioned quite well and you saying it’s some nirvana is laughable and shows you lived in a in a bubble, that said it is compared to northern mill towns, you’re commenting on things you know nothing about.

Where do you live now?

Fuck me you are hard.. you just stepped out of a playground? Your dad bigger than mine? As it happens I have been to many Northern towns including two of those you mention and have never gelt threatened although on a more recent trip was saddened by the flag shit…

I live in Scotland in Fife which has its fair share of deprived areas from Leven to Kirkcaldy. Also, adults tend to have empathy with a lot of things they have mot experienced. Or dont you have empathy with malnourished children in Gaza?

Fife, that multicultural nirvana :joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:

You’re talking shite.

Scotland has a nationalist issue of its own, concentrate on that.

playground arguments is all you are good for it seems… No matter, it saddens me though that you have direct experience of being abused ethnic minorities for you to be able to form an opinion on it. J would wish that on no one…

Oh dear…

Why shoehorn Gaza into it? You’re losing it now, for the record I despise what Israel has done, I support a 2 state solution, what that has to do with young vulnerable girls being groomed and it being covered up for cultural sensitivity? Shows more about yourself than me.

Are you really that dumb.. first you did not get it the catholics now Gaza…. to be clear its not about the details of the examples but about the analogous principles. I’ll spell it out so you get it…

  1. Catholics: Concentration of abusers in priesthood does not mean higher concentration of abusers are catholic. analgous to a concentration of grooming gangs in those towns with higher numbers of Ethnic and islamic communities does not mean abuse is mire associated with these ethnic groups
  2. Gaza. you suggested you can not possibly have empathy for something you have not experienced directly- I could have used any example where majority of people have deep empathy without having experienced it directly…

Jeez… this is why debating with you is so monotonous.. have to keep correcting your dumbass interpretations

You don’t need to spell out your deflections, whatabouterys and excuses for others, that’s your weak victim blaming assertions/opinions, you can have them.

Reality is where it is at and I’m afraid you’re not.

I’m going for a run, read this as it’s fact, current and relevant.

So, you haven’t bothered with the reasons given by the victims for quitting the inquiry, which was the matter under discussion until you decided the inquiry ought to cover the entire issue of sexual abuse in the country as a whole rather than the specific issue it was (purportedly) set up to investigate. As I surmised.