I feel sure that the inquiry will be fair, impartial, and will not unduly favour any religious or ethnic group.
No way am I voting Labour when they put votes before my children, spoiling my paper, Jess Philips is a toxic careerist more concerned about her 600 minority than individual victims, she wants to dilute and put all victims of abuse together, no way, not a chance.
Labour as I have said all along and for years on this issue simply do not get it, this has been an issue for decades and nothing has been done.
Fourth victim leaves the inquiry.
If the victims this is supposed to reassure donât believe it isnât politically motivated propaganda, why should anyone else believe otherwise? Itâs just the usual cover up on a larger scale and at a higher level. Iâm just waiting for Jess Phillips to parrot Starmer and label the victims as far right racists.
Ffs
Migrant finally sent to France under âone in, one outâ scheme has RETURNED to UK on a small boat
This country is weak and frail, we canât move for fear of offence, in this malaise as Iâve always said populism will rise, Labour are fucked and Iâm not voting for them whilst Jess Philips is more concerned about the perpetrators and her slim minority, sectarian and tribal politics are here to stay in certain wards of the country.
Democracy dies and we get further and further apart.
On immigration and the grooming gang enquiry alone Reform will get in, people wonât even look at the NHS or schools, that is the level of indignation and Iâll say hatred towards the government.
Reading between the lines, you can see why the government is trying to broaden the enquiry and why the victims feel like itâs being diluted.
Statistically, while people are the biggest sex offenders. In the Northern towns, there was a disproportionately high number of Pakistani men involved in the grooming gangs.
The last thing the government wants to do in this febrile environment is to paint a target on the back of every brown person in the country. The thugs thatâll use this as fuel wonât know, wonât care and wonât care to know whether the people they now start to target are Pakistani or sex offenders. Being brown will count. You might be in danger for having a suntan with these people.
The victims want to have their suffering acknowledged, and not to be drowned out in a broader enquiry that makes their experiences a few pages in a report, when it has dominated their whole lives. I absolutely get that.
The only long term solution to this is prosecuting without fear of favour on the basis of the evidence and if there is a clear trend that needs to be addressed, address it. You do that by locking the current offenders up and educating future generations now. There is ample precedent for this approach.
This is about victims not being listened to and not getting justice. The abrogation of responsibilities from those in authority and a duty of care were shocking, and I do not buy their ecuses that they were afraid of being called racist. Thwy did not do their jobs. The victims did not get justice. We wouldnât even know about this except for some excellent investigative reporting in Rotherham, and if the government doesnât get a handle on it, theyâre just arming the likes of Farage and Yaxeley-Lennon.
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Its simpler than that for the politicians, the northern mill towns the Muslims vote Labour en mass , this sectarian lines is declining due to Gaza but are keeping some in power, theyâre pandering to the that like Philips.
The police are covering their arse like social services as theyâre totally complicit in it.
And thereâs no excuse for not getting justice and truth to the victims due to the possibility of a backlash, theyâre different things and have to be treated separately, this is why why weâre here, a lack of courage and a fear of upsetting criminals shielded by a community.
This is why many have deserted Labour, theyâve put essentially criminals before children, theyâve covered up.
The evidence doesnât back it up based on the last election.
Five independent Muslim MPs, all helped to office by Muslims utterly pissed off with Labour.
Wes Streeting almost lost his seat. Starker had to rearrange his front bench because he lost a shadow minister on polling day.
Labour arenât getting them back.
Again this is why Labour is losing voters.
A glib statement, which appears to excuse a great deal. Also a completely meaningless one unless given the context of ethnic representation nationally, locally, or both.
These victims deserting the inquiry in disgust at itâs process are simply asking that the ethnic and religious driving forces behind their systematic abuse be acknowledged. That doesnât seem unreasonable, and the transparent attempts to disguise or downplay them in the interests of racial harmony or political ideology are pretty repellent.
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Bloc votes and passing down the issue for another generation are far more important than the most vulnerable, the towns in question or most of them are divided along cultural and religious lines and anyone denying this hasnât been there, theyâre living in a world that isnât a reality.
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Have you never seen a Jack Russell?
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Can you not see how the while point is that this should not be relevant in the application of justice?
Are you suggesting, which the above can do, that there is a direct link between likelihood of being in on of these gangs and religion?
The reality is the victims were not given justice. It may have been deliberate given the concerns locally about stirring up of irrational hate, but whatever the truth is ultimately its about why was justice not served, Not to create a false connection between ethnicity and abuse.
The first cases were reported in 2000 and successive governments have done fuck all not just labour.
What your rather crass statement fails to provide is any rationale for it. There are plenty of examples where communities do NOT have divides along these lines, so you need to ask why only in certain towns? You need to explore the socio- economic challenges that exist, and ask if you want to make such grand (and divisive) statements, be prepared to defend the fact that its these very towns that seemed to have the largest numbers of âsmall boatâ protests, and a lot if middle-aged white men hanging flags (Middle aged white men are statistically the biggest abusers - usually known or related to their victims by the way)
What you (and Scotty) dont acknowledge is its like suggesting that all catholics are abusers because of the concentration of abusers in the priesthood⌠when its the priesthood that attracts the abusers from with a much larger community. Its why we do see concentrations of these gangs in certain towns because its easier for them to operate where there is greater divisions/cover/Poverty
Can you not see that a driver of this is culture? Justice is served after enquiry.
Deflection and whataboutery, theyâre also pond scum who prayed on the most vulnerable, why do you use the Catholic church as an example?
If you think I think Iâve ever held back on the Catholic church then youâre mistaken, wholly mistaken.
They also hid in their community, its all coming out now and their communion is falling in some part to that, Islam isnât as far gone as condemning in their community.
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Driver of what, rape, or the lack of justice? please be clear or you sound like you believe the formerâŚ.
You just made the point .. finally. which does thankfully contradict the nonsense you stated earlier. its about concentration in communities which presents a false statistic.. There is no excuse why Successive governments seemed to ignore justice, but as Pap more elequently stated, its why its natural to have sensitivities when there are so many arseholes happy to distort the reality to make mileage out of the concentration as if its directly associated with ethnicity and culture⌠which you seem happy believe and spreadâŚ
Youâre missing the point from me by ignorance or will so Iâll direct you to the Casey report.