I am sorry.
I cannot like your post.
I cannot pass any comment on the content of your post.
I simply do not want to be arrested on my next trip to UK
I am sorry.
I cannot like your post.
I cannot pass any comment on the content of your post.
I simply do not want to be arrested on my next trip to UK
Religion removes the concept of critical thinking, the right onās have allowed this to happen.
Donāt like it, cancel it and call it fascist, that is where we are at and this is the response,
That old chestnut of not responsible for all, its a belter that, a shield of deniability, like thoughts and prayers its meaningless.
Religion is a vehicle for crackpots but how can you reconcile with fundamentalism?
Answer that? You wonāt and you canāt.
And I certainly wouldnāt say 1000 people arriving illegally in a day at the expense of the taxpayer is trivial or a latest concern, maybe youāre the problem to why someone as heinous as Farage will be the next PM.
You really are full of shit Barry and jump to ridiculous conclusions. As a devout Atheist, I am appalled by all religious nonsense⦠and the teaching of it to children is IMHO child abuse. BUT I have to accept that I canāt be a champion of freedom, and free speech, without sadly being inclusive of the right to hold religious beliefs or practice them (within local laws).
Unfortunately you missed the point that because an individual decides to be a cunt, and commit a heinous crime, it does not mean all of that religion are like minded. You can also not forget that 99% of religious folks are sadly brought up in in culture that is the accident of birth.
You havenāt answered the question and you wonāt.
How can you reconcile with fundamentalism?
Which type?
groups within Judaism that emphasize strict adherence to religious laws and traditions, particularly the Torah and Talmud, and often reject modernist or liberal tendencies.
groups within Judaism that emphasize strict adherence to religious laws and traditions, particularly the Torah and Talmud, and often reject modernist or liberal tendencies.
Or the other lot?
Another inaccurate statement that Farage would be proud of.
People donāt arrive illegally if seeking asylum. They only become illegal if their asylum claim is rejected and they donāt leave the country/go underground etcā¦
Its not 1000 people a day⦠did you find that number on the interwebnet or in your Reform campaign lit?
Even if it were 1000 a day claiming asylum, its our inability to process them quickly so that genuine cases are offered the support and help they need that is the problem
The relative cost to the tax-payer of housing and supporting these people whilst their claims are being processed is £2.8 billion which is about 20% of the total Official Development Assistance (ODA) budget - from an annual budget of around £1,280 Bn so less that 0.2% of our annual budget⦠still a fair bit but it is still dwarfed by the £275bn spent on UK citizens social security (excluding the 175bn we spend on pension benefits) again less than 1%
Overall, its part of our international obligation, and had we stayed in the EU, we had a mechanism to avoid this in the first placeā¦
Oh dear⦠yep best case yet of deflection of blame⦠funny how you always seem to sound like you would be creaming your pants if Farage got in⦠your posts always sound like Reform propaganda⦠stiring the pot to make it seem inevitable that they are the only savioursā¦.
All this shit staring for less than 1% that is spent on Social welfare in the UK - as many have said, Immigrants are NOT the course of peoples shit lives - they have Tories mostly to thank for that, and years of underinvestment on social housing, hospitals and infrastructure and sadly education
You are obviously not stupid⦠although you seem too be giving morons a good run for their money. Your question makes no sense whatsoever⦠fundamentalism can not be āreconciledā (maybe be clearer in your meaning), but the freedom to believe and practice a religion stops when laws are broken. It is very simple Barryā¦
All of them.
The answer is you canāt.
No, Iād be hugely upset, sad but also I can understand how we got to this, we got this because of turning a blind eye and not listening to people its affected the most (remember Gillian Duffy because people in the North didnāt), from this you get a vacuum and shite like Farage fill that vacuum because shite close their ears and eyes as theyāre selfish to accept a reality they donāt like.
I donāt need to be clear, look at the word reconcile and the context Iām using, ie a do gooder trying to reconcile with a fundamentalist is amusing as it is stupid, at best for nowā¦ā¦..its parallel lives and 5 oāclock apartheid and at worse total town segregation like many in the northern mill towns (where fucking ironically Farage is doing rather well).
Its not race, colour, nation, gender, nor even religion in some respects, its culture, theyāre not saying that though are they, theyāre blaming religion (all sides) as its easy, theyāre wrong and many fall for it as theyāre stupid. Its culture plain and simple.
Can you travel to another country without a passport?
Entering a country illegally is different to claiming asylum in one legally, why the fuck canāt people see the difference?
Iāll make it easy in case youāre being obtuse
You can enter a country illegally but legally claim asylum, you have still broken the rules of entering the country without the correct documentation.
The moment they claim asylum (after travelling through safe countries it could constitute shopping but thatās anther argument) theyāre here legally but they entered illegally. Theyāre undocumented and you need that to travel through countries.
I used to live in East Ham High street. The 20 minute walk up to East Ham tube each day was as culturally diverse as you can imagine and everyone just got on. It was friendly and inquisitive, no sense of displacement or cultural erosion⦠that was in 1995-97. When folks recognised the Tories had fucked everyone, not just white ālocalsā - the local hindus, muslims, jews and christians seems to understand that.
People donāt spontaneously change - there needs to be something or usually some one who incites them - that is all Farage has done, from his Brexit campaigning in seeding division, and now even worse because with migrants he can also biddy up with Robinson and use the nazi cunts to spread even more disharmony. Fact remains: Farageās only chance of victory is by spreading division and he is using culture that most folks donāt actually give a fuck about until told to, to do so. Straight out of Trumps and other dictatorās books.
I think you are the one who is being obtuse because it only serves one purpose to label asylum seekers as illegals (something that has now stuck in peoples consciousnessā¦) an that is to undermine/dehumanise themā¦
Entering a country illegally make itās quite obviously illegal, after this claiming asylum makes you legally able to stay until your case has been reviewed, you are being obtuse.
Back to form⦠read the post again and try and pick up on the important bitā¦
Read Paul Embery ādespisedā, heās from east London, my brother lived in Barking for 15 years, I saw it go down hill in that time I went to stay with him.
Youāre deliberately missing the important bit. I can fully understand what youāre saying but you simply wonāt accept the correct point Iām making.
You can not enter a country (or leave if required) legally without the correct documents.
People become bolder when they have the numbers, they become less tolerant and accepting of others and live in echo chambers, your east London multiculturalism nirvana is laughably a world away from what Iām comparing it to.
And⦠it was and has always been a stronghold for the right. Itās the circles of people you mix with Iād imagine shield you from that reality, echo chamber perhaps?
This was a serious thread until posters imagined Farage or Starmer made decisions or could influence people.
I will grant that there is one unclear point, Whether the world and Politicians are being controlled by right wing loonies or extreme end-game capitalists who will not stop until 1% own 99%
chill out build an escape plan Shroppie can wfh in his Van in Andorra Mrs P_F can show you how to build an international recruitment co and livve in drone land on the eastern border nicce and cheap
Kids staying as long as they can fighting and srewing work ovver to move up the chain and salary bonus pot until time to sell & run to chalais in France
Me? I care about November then getting fit for Adare Manor and selling Ryder up Tickets to wanna be capitalists at $850 a day plus handling fee
Well⦠whatever we think about the reasons why folks might want an alternative⦠How the flying fuck can anyone believe these complete fucking loons are ready to run a country?