:labour: šŸŒ… Red Dawn - Life Under Labour

Railways are to be renationailised at the end of the franchise period

I hope they manage this properly and we don’t get British rail again because that was properly shit.

We probably will because absolutely no operator is going to invest in the franchise and will be looking to strip out as much cash as they can between now and the end of their franchise

Mike Lynch will already be knocking one out at the mayhem he will be able to cause with the repeal of the union restrictions, let alone against publicly owned companies where the govt are more likely to roll over

There are so many people who either (a) were not born or were too young; or (b) have alcohol riddled memories; or (c) are just fuckwits, that would love to have BR back. :man_facepalming:

It did have a certain 3rd world charm to be fair.

Good times….

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Lady Slowlane and I do miss the old British Rail Third Class carriages for our travelling retinue.
As responsible employers we always see that Chambers has supplied them with a packed lunch each. Fortunately the Third Class carriages were of the non-corridor type and we could enjoy the First Class Buffet car without fear of a lower class interruption.

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Exactly. I do miss watching the hired help loading the coal and water.

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BR was shite. It was slow, noisy, and uncomfortable.

However, at least it was cheaper than taking your own car, which is more than you can say these days. It infuriates me that I can spend far less money driving an otherwise empty car into London than taking the train. Quite ridiculous.

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To be fair most trains piss all over the old BR rolling stock

I got an Avantia west Coast train up to Madchester and back last week and GWR to Brizzle today. Both comfortable, friendly train crew and on time ( despite BBC slagging them off). The worst bit was the Southwestern Trains suburban train - on time but crap carriages

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Out of interest Cobbs, what did that cost you? I’m not slagging BR, for all the faults I listed it was an actual public service with plenty of trains running and affordable. The French approach is infinitely better, treating rail as a public service instead of a profit machine and doing it right.

Aye, because they make all their profit from us…

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Not cheap tbf

I book all travel through the booking agency my firm uses - which are always way more expensive than say using Trainline - but we get an annual rebate (I think we’re being ripped off but none of the other Partners can see it).

Cost for Madchester was c£180 and Brizzle c£160. Not value for money for most.

:dizzy_face::dizzy_face::flushed:

I rest my case.

Different strokes for different folks.

You can get seats for significantly cheaper if you book ahead / use sites like Trainline -,or are flexible about when you travel. Or, and relevant to some on this site - get an old persons railcard…(or other railcard on offer)

Amusing.
At the exact momenr Europe’s ā€œgreatestā€ Nationalised rail service is collapsing you renationalise.

It wont work somply because the modern world is brainwashed to cut cost over improve service.

Germans cut costs including repair maintenance and replacement and are now fucked.
(Source: anyone who went to the Euros)

Basically all essential services should be nationalised allowing everybody to benifit from lower prices as work is completed on a not for profit basis. Any extra money is reinvested in the industry.
These should include.
Electricity
Gas
Water
Trains
Buses
Post office

What should be gotten rid off
Food banks
Non payment of legal tax’s by company’s

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Lindsey and Darren Ramskill from Goole in East Yorkshire went to six out of England’s seven matches and experienced packed trains, stop-start services and poor communication.

ā€œI’m not moaning about British trains anymore,ā€ said Lindsey. ā€œOurs are better.ā€

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Ahh TWA an acronym for Try Walking asshole which the stewardess’s used quite often

In essence the state runs at least 5 of the rail franchises now anyway as the operator of last resort, due to the ineptitude, greed and incompetence of the private companies awarded those franchises. I don’t see a big problem with nationalisation, providing that the new rail company is run by rail experts and not civil servants and politicians.

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Kid Goat just had 7 nights in Agadir . £360 for flights, transfers, hotel and breakfast.
Or 2 visits to Manchester on the train.
Somethings got to change.

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Daughter got train to Salisbury from Waterloo for my sisters funeral
56 quid 28 each way
Flew return to Bergerac the next day for 46 quid.

Coach from London to Salisbury is 9 quid
To Southampton 5 quid

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