If you book train travel in advance you can actually get pretty reasonable fares
Try turning up at an airport and asking ryan air for a ticket on the next plane to anywhere - i can guarantee it wont be £50
I just tried Trainline for a return ticket to Waterloo from Southampton on a Tuesday in September during rush hour - £39
If I turn up tomorrow wanting to travel that day at the same time - it is over £100
As a comparison a return ticket from Paris to lyon tomorrow at rush hour time (2hr trip) is E150
That’s still dearer than driving, even for one person. If there’s two of you, that’s the thick end of eighty quid for a trip that might cost thirty in petrol.
Big issue for Germany is they are still paying the price of reunification - effectively modernising a whole former communist country…
Good luck parking in London for under £10 for a day!
Edit: plus the congestion charge obvs 
And the ULEZ
If you’re getting out at Waterloo and walking, that’s true. But you might as well get the tube from Kew or Hanger Lane if you’re going to get it anyway.
If you’ve got the leisure to do that then it’s fine. Otherwise that’s a ball ache if you’re on a timetable
Is there free parking at Kew and ULEZ exemption too? I know it’s a special place 
I can see that, and it’s a completely valid view. But the point stands that mass transport ought to be relatively cheap, and you only have to compare the cost of Southampton to Waterloo via train or coach to see that the current rail network system is ripping the piss out of us.
True for the people who need to commute or need to travel at short notice. Anyone who isn’t (& is flexible / maybe has a travel card) can get good deals.
I wouldn’t mind, if it was a premium way of travelling to justify the cost. But by most accounts it’s still as shite as BR was but with a hugely higher price tag. It’s hard to make an argument for that privatisation being a success.
No I sold it to help pay for the parking 
You seem to have forgotten how shite the rolling stock actually was.
I moan about my local trains but I remember they were using the old slam door trains with ropy decor, ripped upholstery
Also,you could smoke back in the day, so remember the overflowing ashtrays and stench
Well the trains are about to get a fuck load more expensive because the govt are about to give the RMT and ASLEF an open goal to. Hike driver wages
They will be averaging six figures by the end of this Parliament (Inc overtime)
In your opinion of course, right?
What do you reckon a militant union with rolled back unions laws is going to do with a nationalised company when the govt of the day owes their funding to them
They are going to want their ROI
… and get a beer on board. 
Sorry but you have form for slagging off absolutely anything that is related to Labour and what they are trying to do to sort out the mess left by the Tories. It’s almost as if you want the Tories back in power.
Sorry if I’m doing you an injustice but that’s how you come across in everything on political threads.
Mind you, I’m the opposite to you. Go figure, eh?
