I asked him specifically if there was _anything _that’d give him pause.
There’s nothing.
There is no point in power without principles. He may as well just join the Tories, if power really is that important. He’ll achieve it sooner with the same policy platform as the Blairites.
It’s a pointless exercise discussing it with you as I find you a closed mind and always have.
Agree with CB and Flahute. What is the point of having a leader of Corbyn’s ilk if he can never get into Government to implement those ideas?
Originally posted by @Flahute
It’s a pointless exercise discussing it with you as I find you a closed mind and always have.
It’s pointless because you’ve no way of reconciling your previous stated beliefs with your support for these right wing nasties.
As for closedmindedness, I’d say you’re suffering from it more. That, hope and imagination.
Enjoy seeing all our kids get eaten by the debt system.
I’d love to have a go on this magic wand you think Corbyn has.
The last election the problem was the leader no one was going to vote for Ed.
Look at how he came across in everything until he had to actually discuss policies then he wiped the floor with the rest but all the rest had completly soured the publics view of him.
I don’t mind change i just don’t think the general public has changed as much as you think it has and come election time a left wing leader will lose and we will be left with the tories for another 4 years and then the country will be ruined and the NHS gone.
I’m not sure the others are the right way either but I don’t know who it should be as I am just sure Corbyn wont do it.
Does anyone feel confident suggesting an actual, credible alternative to Corbyn?
If there are any, they are yet to appear.
Well, there’s a couple of things to clarify before doing this. Which question are you asking?
Or
Question 2 is much, much, much easier than question 1.
Let’s have an answer, then.
Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
Originally posted by @pap
Let’s have an answer, then.
To which question?
The one you said was easy. If it’s so easy, who is it?
Really? Where have I said I support these “right wing nasties”? All I’ve said is that Corbyn is unelectable and that I want an electable left wing leader. You want Corbyn regardless.
You won’t condemn anything they’ve done. There are no deal breakers. Nothing they could do would convince you to put principles before power, and you’re against the democratically elected leader they’re trying to unconstitutionally oust.
If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything.
Have fun letting others fill that open mind of yours with their ideas.
I also think Corbyn is unelectable but after the antics of the rest of them I find I prefer a guy with principles he sticks to. It should not be power at any price.
So I haven’t said/shown in anyway that I support them then? That’s cleared that up.
So now I need to condem them to show I don’t support them? That sounds an awful lot like people demanding Muslims condem terrorism otherwise they must support it and is such a bizarre statement to make. Very 1984.
I love the way you just make the other stuff up. Your tiny mind must be in a whirlwind stuggling to understand the concept that someone wants an electable left wing leader that isn’t Corbyn. You’re so limited that you cannot see past your blinkers and see that, perhaps, there is a credible candidate who hasn’t been involved in any move to unseat their elected leader.
You can rant and rave, you usually do, but like it or not, Corbyn and a split party cannot win a GE and that allows the tories free reign and it’ll be the Corbynistas that have allowed it.
Now I’ll leave this thread alone as a closed book such as yourself, is frankly, a bore.
What about one of them who hasn’t been up to any antics? I wouldn’t want any of those who have spouted off to be leader either.
Andy Burnham is a good one to start with…
Originally posted by @Chertsey-Saint
Andy Burnham is a good one to start with…
Not part of the coup. Soundly beaten in leadership election. Another, pls.
Woah, that wasn’t the question. You asked for someone who could do a better job than Corbyn. I’ve named you one.
But if you’re moving the goalposts (rather predictably BTW), Hilary Benn.