:labour: New Old Labour in trouble

You should read the report and the leaked report for full context. Corbyn and Jennie Formby, the General Secretary, improved the complaints procedure once they won control of the party from the right, who had been undermining Corbyn’s leadership ever since he was elected.
The EHRC found two cases of direct discrimination. They found more cases of indirect discrimination, where the leader of the opposition’s office interfered in cases. In most instances, this interference was to speed up the process or ask for less lenient measures to be taken. The two direct cases occured during the transition between the outgoing General Secretary, Ian McNicholl and Formby, during which the leader of the opposition specifically asked not to be copied into GLU business by the outgoing team. Tonight it appears that the acting general Secretary didn’t have the authority to suspend Corbyn, other members of the NEC are kicking up about it. So i think it’s safe to say that he did as he was told. But that’s all by the by, this whole saga has never really been about anti-semitism, even Corbyn’s enemies know he is not an anti-semite, his undisputed record over 40 odd years in fighting all forms of racism shows that.

This is just ‘Get Corbyn’ Mk6 after the previous five methods of attack failed miserably. We had the Chicken Coups, Corbyn is a Czech Spy, Corbyn the IRA supporter, Corbyn the communist, and the rest of the ridiculous slurs. From the moment he was elected it was quite clear that The Establishment, the accepted order, aided and abetted by the old order in the Labour Party, had major issues with him and did all they could to undermine him and his leadership. Peter Mandelson even boasted about it publicly. The issue from the start was of course that Corbyn was prepared to openly criticise Israel’s illegal land grab and continued barbaric treatment of the Palestinians. The Israeli government and their ‘friends’ in the UK parliament spent large amounts of money on Mk 6, as evidenced on the AL Jazeera expose, ‘The Lobby’, where officials from the Israeli embassy in London were caught bang to rights offering a seven figure sum to these ‘friends’, for them to use to undermine prominent Palestinian supporters in Parliament, including Alan Duncan, a Tory. This, and a daily barrage of smears in the overwhelming majority of the media which went on for the best part of four years did the trick.

For context on this, a search on the media monitoring service Meltwater reveals the following number of hits.
2015:
Labour anti-semitism: 1.
Tory/Conservative anti-semitism: 0.
2016:
Labour anti-semitism: 2,520.
Tory/Conserative anti-semitism: 0.
2017:
Labour anti-semitism: 93.
Conservative anti-semitism: 0.
2018:
Labour anti-semitism: 6790.
Conservative anti-semitism:0
2019:
Labour anti-semitism: 3820"
Conservative anti-semitism:1.
Totals: Labour anti-semitism = 13,224. Conservative anti-semitism = 1.
Hands up whoever thinks that anti-semitism is 13,000 times more prevalent in the Labour Party than in the Tories?

A report commissioned by the former General Secretary, Jennie Formby, noted that more than half of all anti-semitism complaints, and more than a third of all anti-semitism cases in 2019 were submitted by a single individual. Yet despite this hunt for material, there were only 1,202 anti-semitism related complaints adjudged to warrant action over the two year period 2018-2019. This corresponds to less than a quarter of one percent of the Party’s membership. So the story that under Jeremy Corbyn the labour Party was “rife with anti-semitism” only holds up if you think that 0.25% of the membership saying anti-semitic things = rife.

“One must admire the incredible skills the media have in manipulating the population. They’ve managed to convince many that one of the most passionate anti-racist campaigners of the last 40 years, Jeremy Corbyn, is actually pro-racist and anti-semitic”.----- Noam Chomsky.

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Posted that in a few places. You’re the only person brave enough to have liked it, which illustrates the problem better than the meme does.

That’s cos I didn’t really understand it…

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Well, it’s a reference to the Israel lobby’s obvious power within the Parliamentary Labour Party. I don’t think the Labour Party recovers from this.

They may win a few of the floaters which @WorzelScummage and @CB-Saint rightfully say are necessary. It’s the base that’s the problem.

As @Nottarf-Krap pointed out, 0.25% is not rife antisemtism. It is actually significantly lower than in the general population.

This is scorched earth stuff. Even Corbyn’s opponents on the right know it’s bullshit. I saw a post on Facebook today from a right winger laughing his head off that lifelong anti-racism campaigner being done up for a form of racism.

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Although I’ve taken the piss a lot, we know he’s not an anti-semite. As with the my whole issue with him through the years - he doesn’t know how to play the game, and his reaction to this yet again shows that.

I know a lot of people like him just for that reason, and that’s fair enough, HOWEVER, that does not work when you’re leading a party the size of Labour.

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That’s the tragedy. He doesn’t even understand that it is a fucking game, he genuinely believes in what he tried to achieve, and in today’s Britain that is pure anathema.

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He simply thought Politicians ran the world.
Such naivety.

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@pap gets some vindication…

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But not for shafting Corbyn - apparently Bolivia is more important to the CLP

Fair play to them Bolivia’s getting shafted at the moment.

Still, great “party unity” from Keir there.

The centre ground will be lining up.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/at-least-nine-labour-party-members-suspended-in-a-week-b206630.html

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It’s a farce.

I should have been amazed at the suspension of Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi, but I’m not.

Amazing woman. Articulate and brave.

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Yep. Millwall want to be Israel. No worries for Keith.

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I can see the rationale behind most of Starmer’s decisions so far. He clearly wants to be the next PM and is setting out his stall to appear the polar opposite of Johnson. I understand his desire to be seen as the grown up and not to oppose the government just for the sake of it, but by backing the proposed Brexit deal I think he is making a mistake. If he believes that it is a good deal, fine, but to back it just on the basis of any deal being better than no deal, why?
If he abstains then it is totally down to Johnson if the deal turns out to be a Tescos rancid turkey. By supporting it he will allow Johnson off the hook if it goes tits up as Johnson will rightly say it had Starmer’s backing.
If you have objections, which he clearly does, set them out, abstain and let the Tories stew in their own juices. If the new deal is a raging success, Labour will get no credit anyway. If it goes pear shaped you can bet Johnson’s monthly child care payments that he will drag Labour into it and spread the blame.

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Labour are becoming less relevant day by day. I don’t know what they stand for anymore.

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Starmer immediately said he would whip Labour MPs to vote for the deal as soon as it was announced, before it was published, before he had even read it. So much for his much lauded ‘forensic skills’. I suspect his main reason for this bizarre kneejerk decision is because he is playing to the gallery of The Mail, Express, The Sun and their readers, every decision he has taken so far as leader has been designed to pander to them and not get on the wrong side of them. As if they will ever support a Labour Party, no matter what he says or does! Likewise the so called ‘Red Wall’ voters, unless he goes full on Farage they are a lost cause as well. He is taking the gamble that he can afford to pander to these people, and shit on millions of long standing Labour supporters, taking them for granted, because they will support the Party come what may, because they have nowhere else to go. That could be a huge miscalculation, he shouldn’t just assume that they are as unprincipled as he is.

As for Rachel Reeves, his shadow minister in charge of pushing this line and whipping MPs to support Johnson’s deal, under Ed Milliband’s leadership, when she was Shadow Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, she was the one who promised that Labour would be “tougher than the Tories” on cutting the welfare bill. Just like her present boss, when push comes to shove she is a Tory at heart.

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I can tell you what they absolutely won’t stand for.

Imaginary antisemitism.

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