:labour: New Old Labour in trouble

Corbyn is about as polarising as you can get.

For every voter that signs up to his message, there are equal numbers heading in the opposite direction.

Labours best chance is to sack him off with McDonnell and appoint a moderate - I appreciate that is not what a lot of his supporters want to hear but you can’t do anything in opposition

In the subject of McDonnell I read that he is purging Corbyns allies and Milne is next. The king is dead, long live the king?

Where are you reading this? Not what I observed last night where both Corbyn and McDonnell were present.

Wouldn’t be the first time that a party leader had been stabbed in the back whilst looking in the face of their “friend”…Et tu Brute :man_shrugging:

What did you observe when you saw McDonnell cosying up to Alistair Campbell and saying that he should be allowed back in the party?

https://twitter.com/papingu/status/1187823566550716416

Ever heard the term “useful idiot” because that’s how the tories view people like yourself.
But feel free to keep playing their game for them, saves the money men some advertising money, so well done you.
Who was it that coined the phrase(modern term) on here about polls?
Who do you really bat for?

That’s not an unofficial opinion poll.

That is an election result.

Yes, apologies for that.
Is that a single one jumped on, or a genuine trend?

Check out Britain Elects on twitter. A lot of results and also polls.

Yeah I now know. The first reply in paps link mentioned it.
This last week has again been a powerful reminder of the words of Milton Sanford Mayer and Martin Niemöller.
We live in a state that has been openly persecuting the disabled(for a decade) and torturing an innocent man(similar timeframe), with supposed social minded people backing the very forces that perpetrate these crimes, but they can’t see the obvious outcome?
Sheep to the slaughter

I’m afraid you have lost me a little. Torturing an innocent man?

No worries, but as I pointed out in my tweet, that is a mortal swing. You can’t extrapolate too much of course, but I would take that as a strong sign that people might not be happy with Labour’s actions,

I hate to say it, largely because @Barry-Sanchez loves to hear it, but he’s right. Labour’s Brexit position is insulting to much of their heartlands. Their core voters feel like they’ve been abandoned on the Brexit position.

They’re right. They have been. I was watching a report from Barnsley today where Labour voters we on-side with the Prime Minister’s general gait.

I suspect he is referring to Assange

Not sure using local council election results is a good way to gauge the mood on Brexit. If that were true, based on the local elections earlier this year the Lib Dems are on for a landslide victory in a GE.

Neither was I.

That’s why I explicitly said you can’t extrapolate too much.

Labour are getting rinsed though, and Brexit will be why they’re getting rinsed.

But only 30% of labour voters voted to leave. The party can hardly dump the other 70% because the few are doing this

It’s about time the few woke up to reality.

As CB says, Assange. It’s been clear for a long time.

Most of those 70% are likely democratic.

I’d argue a much smaller percentage are currently having a break with reality. They can vote for the Lib Dems.

Owen Smith is an anagram of Shit Women.

https://twitter.com/OwenSmith_MP/status/1189285858307985409

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