:labour: New Old Labour in trouble

Wasn’t it from 7 years ago and in no way antisemitic?
People will believe any old shit when the msm poke them with another shit covered lie.

I don’t think this is true at all(although the friend of apartheid that Formby replaced had done nothing for 2 years. Maybe his masters told him not to, so the gutter press could run with it).
I think the msm are telling people lies for some reason(point 32).

  1. When Jennie Formby became general secretary of the party last year, she appointed a highly-qualified in-house Counsel, as recommended in the Chakrabarti Report.

  2. In 2018, Labour almost doubled the size of its staff team handling investigations and dispute processes.

  3. Last year, to speed up the handling of antisemitism cases, smaller panels of 3-5 NEC members were established to enable cases to be heard more quickly.

  4. Since 2018, every complaint made about antisemitism is allocated its own independent specialist barrister to ensure due process is followed.

  5. The entire backlog of cases outstanding upon Jennie Formby becoming General Secretary of the Labour Party was cleared within 6 months of Jennie taking up her post.

  6. Since September 2018, Labour has doubled the size of its National Constitutional Committee (NCC) – its senior disciplinary panel – from 11 to 25 members to enable it to process cases more quickly.

  7. Under Formby and Labour’s left-run NEC, NCC arranged elections at short notice to ensure the NCC reached its new full capacity without delay.

  8. Since later 2018, the NCC routinely convenes a greater number of hearing panels to allow cases to be heard and finalised without delay.

  9. In 2018, the NEC established a ‘Procedures Working Group’ to lead reforms in the way disciplinary cases are handled.

  10. The NEC adopted the IHRA working definition of antisemitism and all eleven examples of antisemitism attached to it.

  11. A rule change agreed at Conference in 2018 means that all serious complaints, including antisemitism, are dealt with nationally to ensure consistency.

  12. Last year, Jennie Formby wrote to the admins and moderators of Facebook groups about how they can effectively moderate online spaces and requested that any discriminatory content be reported to the Labour Party for investigation.

  13. Since last year, no one outside Labour’s Governance and Legal Unit can be involved in decision-making on antisemitism investigations. This independence allows decisions free from political influence to be taken. ( have managed to repost first section without first line(?) and was still up after about twenty minutes, first time lasted about 10)

They really couldn’t do any more. We all know it’s a minor problem(dwarfed by the tories antisemistism and completely buried by their Islamophobia) magnified by a lying, not fit for purpose, propaganda machine.
All we’ve learnt from this whole thing, is yet again, you’d have to be crazy to believe anything the msm say about Labour or Corbyn. They do their masters bidding and the truth is meaningless to them. Have to ask yourself why anyone bothers with them.

The political cynic would say Stage Managed.
An IG sponsor taps a minion on the shoulder & says this would be a good idea. Minion slides Hattons’ application onto the approved pile.
Sponsor drops the bombshell to give more just cause to splitters while the party run around trying to discover wtf happened.

And repeat across multiple parties/personnel/scenarios

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A couple of points - I think the people who objected were senior labour MPs - the MSM hardly had a chance to get stuck in plus they were too busy looking at the IG

Second whilst they may be improving they have form - how long did it take them to deal with Ken Livingstone for instance

This isn’t a real story worth covering unless you have fallen for the original lie. The msm know this full well, so should be held up as the liars they are.
Pre Formby twat is a friend of the illegal apartheid settlement(who should be charged with treason, as should all agents of the apartheid settlement) that sat on the Chakrabarti Report and delayed things, as his masters ordered. Again the msm know this but don’t mention it. The Barry Broadcasting Corporation(and all the others) just makes shit up to suit a narrative and simultaneously bury the truth.
Saying they have form, is clinging to a past when the party was controlled by those now shouting the loudest. Complete hypocritical bollocks, basically.
The tories antisemitism is many many times worse, for a party with a tiny fraction of members compared to Labour. If you can’t show where the msm have hounded them like Labour, you really have to admit that the msm are liars for their owners and only a fool would believe anything they wrote on the subject.

The clip that has been done death, has a version that sits here quite nicely.

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A list of people that should be expelled from the Labour party(and politics) for spreading known lies, in support of apartheid.


Read the lies, then the comments :joy:
https://twitter.com/_LFI/status/1097981212113727488/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^embeddedtimeline|twterm^profile%3A_LFI&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lfi.org.uk%2Fin-parliament%2F

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Which makes the admission by Barry Gardiner in the Commons yesterday that there is rife antisemitism within Labour, all the more damning. He readily acknowledged that Berger had been hounded by antisemites within the Party to the extent that “most of (them MP’s) would not have the strength to bear”. Obviously the new way of dealing with this scourge is not working and needs to change. And those who deny antisemitism within the Party are dealing in “false narratives” - his words not mine.

So, if one of the top boys in the shadow cabinet is so candid about it, there must be a real problem - not overblown by the media - and they need to shape up to sort it out. Hopefully Gardiner’s unequivocal admission will be the start of more momentum (excuse the pun) into the process of throwing out those who have these vile views.

Sounds like a Scouse Ken Masters. Bet he had Sade blaring from the stereo.

Have you read the list of names? He’s a friend of apartheid.

Are you saying a minister, or shadow minister has never been known to lie?

Widely proven to be deliberately over blown by the lying stenographers.
If you doubt that, have a read of Cook.

Or try Norman Finkelstein. He does all the figures, so you don’t have to. He is a self hating jew apparently, according to the apartheid lovers.
If you would like a full breakdown of antisemitism, who’s committing what kind of crimes and in what numbers, look here.

Only if you believe evidence free propaganda. Where is the evidence of this massive rise?
Now there is a party that needs to do as you suggest.

“the statistics show that all other political parties (apart from the Lib Dems whose results are comparable to Labour’s) have a far bigger problem with their voters agreeing with anti-Semitic statements.”

And that’s before we even mention the horrendous levels of Islamophobia in the tory party. Care to share all the msm stories about both over the last two years(you’ll be able to, as there are so few).
Still think the media aren’t over blowing it(doesn’t matter how often they repeat the lie, it’s still a lie).

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I’m not advocating or sharing anything. The rather cold hard facts are that Gardiner stood up in the Commons and unequivocally stated there was a problem in the Party he is on the front bench of. As unpalatable as that sounds to you and as much as you want to use YouGov polls of a few people to try and justify otherwise, there is a problem that Labour need to sort out. They have acknowledged it and are making strides, but this is plainly not enough. This is what I was pointing out. I don’t know why you are getting so worked up.

I couldn’t give a fuck about whether Gardiner is another “crackpot” or “friend of apartheid” or whatever old bollocks you want to throw at him because you don’t like what he says. I’d never heard of him before Corbyn came in to power, so I assume he’s a favourite of his. But he’s on the front bench. You’re not. He see’s much more of what goes on at the coal face. You don’t. There’s a nice little video of what he said yesterday and that’s good enough for me.

Man says something, that’s good enough and all the evidence to the contrary is just ignored. How very msm.
I’ll stick with evidence based.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1098170804179816448

If I was in need of a voice to speak out in my support, think Galloway would be just above Livingstone & Hatton and just below Saddam/the Saudi Leader tbh

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Well, not just any old geezer, eh? An integral senior figure involved with the very organisation in question.

It is a GOOD thing that they’ve acknowledged it. It is a GOOD thing that they are trying to deal with it. It is obvious it isn’t working, but it is a GOOD thing that they acknowledge this and appear prepared to change it. It is a shame honesty is so undervalued these days.

Yeah, he was on Celebrity Big Brother pretending to be a cat for Rula Lenska. That should be enough to invalidate anything he says ever again.

Personally, I have a lot of time for Galloway. His show is the only one on any mainstream channel getting close to any serious critical appraisal of events in the world today.

Don’t worry about that though, Phil. Worry about the pretend cat. Or was there something else?

Yes he talks sense just that the machine did a complete number on him for the msm believers

:roll_eyes::sunglasses:

To be fair I don’t seem to remeber any one actually calling Corbyn anti-semetic, just the party!!

The Daily Fail reader isn’t going to get bogged down with a little detail like that. Having a field day with Jezza’s current point of law…to them he an Isis lover. :lou_eyes_to_sky:

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Really not convinced that labour are any more anti Semitic than the average person in the street or even your workplace for that matter. The MSM and LFI are out to make Labour unelectable, it’s as simple as that.

Look, I said that without my tinfoil hat on. :wink:

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Galloway makes my skin crawl and I have him seen him speak in person. I had to leave the room.
Sometimes it’s a gut feeling (we are told to consider it in our work but it cannot be the only thing we rely on).

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