:labour: New Old Labour in trouble

Oh, so you are their audience.

I always knew there was one. :lou_lol:

Why did I get downvoted for that - surely people get that it’s a joke, hence the winky-face.

I’ve been downvoted for suggesting Raheem Sterling is a bit crap for England, and for saying Bob Dylan is past his best - so nothing surprises me.

winky face.

You’re asking the wrong person.

I rarely downvote. Didn’t do it there either.

I gave you an up vote to balance the books

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Jeremy Corbyn sparked a fresh row with Labour MPs by refusing to say whether Britain should give its Nato allies military backing if they are attacked, PoliticsHome can reveal.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/defence/military-campaigns/news/80797/excl-jeremy-corbyn-angers-labour-mps-nato-comments

With out reading whatever is in the link

The whole point about allies is if any are attacked the others respond

I dunno, Cherts, it’s almost as Stephen Kinnock purposefully asked the question to cause controversy from nothing.

Kinnock needs to learn more of his history. Is there a point in saying we’ll help if we can’t actually help? This country entered the Second World War to protect Poland.

Ten years later, we’d lost first power status, handing it over to the teenagers, and we’ve all seen how well that has worked out.

Most of the country was destroyed. Warsaw was taken town systematically, street by street, Poland wasn’t properly saved until 1989, finally out of Soviet control, 50 years after it was attacked by Nazis. Great job, Western forces!

Corbyn has the right of it. We need to prevent these wars from happening in the first place. Think there was a time when NATO helped that objective. Now I only see potential hindrances and tinderboxes.

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Stephen Kinnock is a massive fucking bellend.

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As son of Neil what else could he be?

What a difference a day makes. This UKIP nob was giving it large on Twitter yesterday.

Left wing Twitterati responds, and not 24 hours later:-

Behold the awesome organisin’ power of the connected Left :lou_sunglasses:

Take it with a pinch of salt. Polls is shit.

Eoin Clarke

One month of Labour unity, gets you this. Let’s have 3 months of Labour unity and see how we fare. #GrammarSchools #NHS #WelfareCuts #Yemen

It seems as if ol’ Tone wants to throw his hat back in the ring. He seems to be going an odd way about it. This article mentions that he has just recruited Jim Murphy to assist him in this objective.

Jim Murphy ran Scottish Labour’s 2015 GE campaign :lou_sunglasses:

He is having a fucking laugh!

We are more likely to see Gary Glitter back in the charts.

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** “Never go back”**

…even more so if you’ve nothing left to prove.

Surely maximum trollage point was reached when he got the Middle East Envoy for Peace gig?

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Wow. What a site. None of the drivel on there reflects the party I know and am part of.

It’s Paul Squires’ site. Owen Jones mentions it a lot in his “Outriders” chapter of “The Establishment; and how they get away with it”. It’s largely populated by right wing keyboard warriors frothing at the mouth, and essentially exists to normalise the extreme. See also; Taxpayer’s Alliance, another outrider there to drive ideas that we slash public spending.

Oddly enough, the site gave as much comfort to Corbyn as criticism. While the site certainly doesn’t like him, it seems to have even more contempt for some of the right wing Labour lot.

I think it may have been them that revealed that right wing Labour were running a Stasi-style sting operation in Louise Ellman’s constituency (ultimately fruitless). The party we know and are part of has made some very troubling mis-steps.

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A few of us have remarked that when it comes to Hillary Benn, the apple was placed in a railgun and fired as far away from the tree as gravity and velocity would allow (I mean who hasn’t said that?! :lou_sunglasses:).

Few will forget his part in the Syrian decision, nor will they forget his leading role in the recent coup.

ONE of Yorkshire’s most senior Labour MPs is on a collision course with his local party after a “takeover” by supporters of leader Jeremy Corbyn.

Political allies of Hilary Benn, the former shadow foreign secretary, have expressed concern about his future after elections to his Leeds Central constituency party were dominated by Corbyn supporters. The elections were described by one Labour source in the region as a “takeover” of the Leeds Central party by Corbynites. The results have been celebrated by Corbyn-supporting activists on social media along with calls for other constituency parties with moderate Labour MPs to follow suit.

There is talk of deselection.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/corbyn-backers-take-control-of-benn-s-party-in-leeds-1-8234838

Interesting speech from Corbyn today for a number of reasons. He’s not preaching to the converted, not getting brays from the opposite (or even the same) bench in Parliament, not getting cheered, and not getting interrupted. He’s speaking to the CBI. Honest assessment? Bit autocue at points, but I reckon he does a good job of articulating why Corbyn Labour might not be a disaster for business.

Canny approach. Started by citing the CBI’s own recommendations. Frames the whole thing as a business proposition. Gets a nice clap at the end of his speech.