Yeah, Labour will get more seats than any other party and be asked to form a government 
The only poll that matters is the one on election day. This thread is full of examples, from turnout, apathy to people just having something different to vote for.
The Tories will make political mincemeat of Miliband for abandoning his constituents. As they should.
Haven’t seen it yet but I hear Corbyn gave May a proper grilling at PMQs. His best yet. Her worst yet.
Lot of pundits saying the honeymoon is over.
I’m watching it for you p. It’s about the Grandma schools. JC is like, the experts all say grandma schools are DUMB! TM is like, the experts all think ur Dumb. JC is like, Grandma schools will give first rate education for the few, and second rate education for the Many. TM is like, I believe in equality of opportunity, I am give opportunity for all to level up, ur forcing all to level down. I went to Grandma School, and so did you, you soft cunt. If we hadn’t, we wouldn’t be where we are today. I’d prob be a low rent streetwalker with a crack habit, and you’d be a workshy fkn communist jew-hating benefit cheat.
Thanks Bear. I haven’t checked, but you’re clearly a diligent sort. I’m assuming that’s word for word.
I think polling is as it is because people don’t see Labour as a viable governing party due to the bickering and refusal to work together they’ve seen over the last year. A lot of that is out of Corbyn’s hands as he selected a diverse shadow cabinet to appease the dissenters within Labour, who then proceeded to betray him at every turn, and was then forced into another needless leadership election.
It’s my hope that when JC wins he issues an ultimatum to those working against him within the PLP, that either they work with him or face deselection. I would imagine that would be a pretty popular choice amongst Labour Party members, but would cause mayhem in the ranks of the PLP. The only way that Labour will win an election is with a united front behind their leader and clear policy ideas - neither of which can be achieved with the current state of affairs. Despite the handicaps faced, Labour under JC improved its standing in the polls shortly before this leadership campaign was triggered which shows there is still core support there. With 3.5 years until the next planned election, there’s plenty of time to whip the current crop of MPs into shape or to bring through a group of MPs that share the values of their constituents, ready to fight a GE.
Today’s PMQs (as I posted above) showed that there are clear areas to attack the Tories on and they don’t have an answer to it. There’s a very clear policy divide between Labour and Conservative at the moment where previously there wasn’t, and that needs to be highlighted and promoted to the public which isn’t happening at the moment due to pointless distractions from sulking PLP members.
I would Lol and definately tune in next week if May had in fact called Jezza a “soft cunt”
I don’t think Jezza has ever been a benefit cheat
May has developed the unfortunate habit of coming across as a shifty and deeply unpleasant human being.
That’s called a tory. Look at any of them for long enough and you will see the same. Fair few in Labour as well.
And let’s remember, May is who Jezza will be up against. I’ve been saying for some time that the Tories are on their second stringers, and if the Palace of Vagueness constructed for Brexit is any example, what we’re seeing is a government that isn’t sure of itself, isn’t sure of its appeal with the general public and certainly can’t be sure of its twelve strong majority, especially with that lot.
Cameron was a disaster for this country. As bad as Blair on the foreign policy and kowtowing to US interests, actually weaker on defence if you listen to people in the forces. Domestic policy was even worse, and the only reason he got away with it was because of his pals in the press and the lack of opposition from Ed Miliband’s Labour, as unsure of what it was supposed to be as the Conservatives are now.
You are seeing a government in retreat, which did a reasonable job of papering over the cracks during the maelstrom of the chicken coup. They know how toxic their policy platform is perceived, they know they have to travel left. Most of them are ideologically incapable of doing that, and as much as I like David Davies,. even those that might fancy a bit more social democracy are going to be incapable. Even if they can implement, the Party at large won’t be happy with wearing Labour’s colours.
May is stuck because she recognises she needs to address inequality, but the most effective tools for doing that belong to the other side of the political spectrum. Even policies that seemed beneficial, such as right-to-buy, have led to problems that can’t be solved. She’s trying to increase social mobility using the tools of the right because that’s all she knows.
Consider the contrast with Corbyn’s Labour. They have all the policies, and assuming Corbyn wins as expected, could start pulling in the same direction or quitting the Party if they can’t. The PLP may not agree with the Corbyn team vision, but many of the public will. Many of Corbyn’s staunchest opponents praised his efforts in PMQs today.
If it’s Corbyn and May contesting the GE, it’s going to be vision versus malaise, reform over stagnation, a Prime Minister with virutally no mandate for the position versus a leader that has been elected twice in popular elections. That’s just me with a couple of thoughts; a competent Labour PR machine is going to be able to hit that and more, again and again.
I’m almost embarrassed when Labour types say this is unwinnable. It’s there for the taking.
Originally posted by @pap
I’m almost embarrassed when Labour types say this is unwinnable. It’s there for the taking.
True, but (and I know you’ll disagree with me) Labour are doing their level best to fuck the entire thing up.
Just got my vote and have a little bit more faith in the world. I’ve been enfranchised all along, just been among the ranks of the admin errors. I phoned up this morning, and had a moan about this status, saying that it was the only bit of admin they were getting wrong. NEC votes. Monthly direct debits. I even moaned about the inexorable madness that would result from having to check my spam folder all the time. They told me it would arrive by midnight tomorrow. I told them that I had no confidence that it would happen, and thanked them politely for their time.
Oddly enough, I voted for Corbyn.
I’ve been purged 
Well, it’s not surprising given someone got thrown out for saying they fucking loved the Foo Fighters.
I went a bit further than that.
God, that PMQs has reminded me just what a bunch of cunts most MPs really are. Sycophantic fucks on the Tory benches.
I really hope these purges are investigated after the contest is over, absolutely shocking that paying members of the party are being prevented from voting on their leader for such petty things (although perhaps you tipped the scales a bit!). Does free speech still exist?
On one of the days, all I did was announce to Tooting that the Conservatives were a pack of racist, venal cunts.
The other day I said “fucking gutter”, but also commented on the Livingstone thing a bit.
Maybe they discovered you voted with Boris and Farage?
Just in case anyone was in any doubt, May is talking rubbish in that PMQs regarding education.
Our school has lost countless teaching assistants (invaluable in supporting vulnerable students), now has more teachers than ever teaching out of specialism (due to a crisis in teacher retention), has had to cut trips, visits and teaching resources (due to budget cuts), and commonly has class sizes greater than 30 (I currently teach two classes with 33 kids in). All of that with what in effect is a pay cut due to a payfreeze and then pay increase which is lower than inflation.
And then she’s got the cheek to accuse Corbyn of living in the 50s when her party wants to bring back grammars. Jokers.
Genuinely think I’ve been purged for swearing. I don’t swear in text form much on Twitter. The speed at which I was purged indicates that all they’ve done is used Twitter’s advanced search to look for instances of fuck or cunt.
A disturbing zeal to shrink the Labour Party.
They’ll soon discover that I’m not that easy to silence. I’ve been bunged out of things before 