Iām using the logic people have on here concerning Ukraine, we need credible verified sources otherwise its propaganda.
Youāre defending journalist shooters, again.
No far from it, just want the truth, if true its horrendous but why would it bother you?
This is a quote from you yesterday, Iāve posted the whole of the post as Iām fair and want the whole context but Iāve highlighted in bold what stands out in more ways than one.
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"Indeed.
Can you believe some people are cheerleading us to nuclear Armageddon?
Itās regrettable, but understandable, that people treat political parties like football teams. Didnāt expect people to so readily do so for an international conflict when they donāt have a dog in the fight and could face obliteration if the fight gets any worse."
Evil bastards.
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That is despicable, no respect at all, why did they do that?
Because they can.
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Iāve said before that I feel almost as sorry for the Israelis that complete the process of radicalisation than I do for the Palestinians. If Israel were composed solely of people whoād gone through the state indoctrination, it would be even worse.
Fortunately, the open door policy to anyone Jewish means that Israel also has the best and most strident critics of its own apparatus.
That does not excuse anything the Israeli state does, but as Iāve asked before, how may of us could emerge from the existential born in Israel indoctrination if weād had to deal with it?
Guessing not many.
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IMHO given that, in this situation, both sides are as bad as each I donāt think the FA should.
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Iām keeping quiet on social media. I have a lot of US friends and a balanced view on this subject wouldnāt be well received, and I canāt be bothered to beat my head against a brick wall. 
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Ditto, but in my case I have a lot of Arab friends so, no liking stuff, & just staying clear of a no win situation
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The FA are coming under a lot of pressure to reverse this decision, the usual suspects, Board of Deputies, Campaign Against Anti Semitism etc are calling for them to do this and show support for Israel, a failure to do this would be āutterly shamefulā. Starmer of course is echoing this. I hope they donāt cave but I wouldnāt be surprised if they did. Meanwhile silly little Sunak has announced that the UK are sending two Royal Navy ships, P8 aircraft, three Merlin helicopters and a company of Royal Marines āto support Israelā. How on earth he thinks this will help the situation God only knows. Starmer of course will be scrambling to support this, terrified of incurring the wrath of the Sun, Daily Mail and Express.
Very long but worrh a read, IMHO
https://twitter.com/Ike_Saul/status/1711780282725011520?t=ZxafeXfEEi4z2KbBxQH0sw&s=19
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Well worth a read.
Much of the horror and hatred in the world is perhaps a result of people not understanding why there is a problem in the first place.
Another recommended read from me is āThe Palestiniansā by Jonathan Dimbleby - if you can get hold of a copy. I bought my copy in UAE in late seventies, but later found it was extremely difficult to locate in UK - perhaps the powers that be didnāt like what Dimbleby was saying?
Donāt let it influence you in any way - hopefully it may just help you to understand why there is a problem, and why it seems to be insoluble.
Weāll never know the real truth behind what actually happens in this conflict. Thereās very little point in trying to work out the rights and wrongs over such a long, bitter and protracted period, I personally canāt see it being resolved in my lifetime.
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We are all being played and gaslit, Jonathan Cook is absolutely correct. The rockets possessed by the Palestinians are little more than large fireworks, as has been shown time and time again for years. If Palestinian militants/terrorists, call them what you will, had weapons capable of causing the sort of damage seen at the hospital last night donāt you think they would be using them on high value targets in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem? Of course they would.
Just 48 hours ago Israel were giving hospitals 24 hours to evacuate, why do this if not intending to bomb them? And on a more sinister note, the family of British surgeon Prof. Ghassan Abu-Sittah, a plastic and reconstructive consultant with a practice in London who travelled to Gaza after the bombardment started, complained about ābeing harassedā by UK Special Branch a few days ago, trying to find out which hospital he was operating in. Hmm!
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