Cant argue with that although words the disorder maybe
So I read Incredibles 2 at the cinema the other week?
NO! @dinger (rhymes with ginger). Itās not so!
Reading is reading. Listening is listening.
I am a slow reader because I subvocalise (I say the words in my head) which means the voice I listen to is me (not as entertaining as it undoubtedly sounds, actually) and all the accents or emphasis come from me having thought about it.
When @Bathsaint is listening to Stephen Fry acting out Dumbledore heās doing half the work he would if heād read it.
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Iāve got to agree. Reading is definitely different to having something read to you. If you read a book to a small childā¦say you read war and peace to it, could that child have claimed to have read war and peace? Of course not @dinger you fannyhead.
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@dinger probably thinks that reading reviews of films means that heās watched the film. Even having someone read the review to him would count.
Iād like to get everyone involved in mocking @dinger. In fact, even just reading other people mock him will count as them mocking him.
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Oh, OK.
If @Fatso agrees with me Iāve changed my mind. Iām with @dinger.
Iām off to put a CD in and read some music.
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Ball-juice!
Thatās pedantry.
You canāt read a film, because itās not a book.
Do blind people never get to say they read a book?
@Fatso is clearly a bell-end. In fact Iāve recently downloaded the audiobook of War and Peace and will soon start reading it.
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Yeah almost like he had a drop down menu of character types/actors in mind when he wrote it.
Decent summer read but not a page turner binge read like his first
Do people prefer reading in HD or Blu-ray?
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I like to read through headphones
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I had to pause the song I was reading to reply to this.
Blind people, if theyāre using braille, get to read because itās their āvoiceā they hear.
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Iām a slow reader tooā¦I have to follow my finger when I vocalise. If I read for a long stint I often get readerās cramp and a sore throat. 
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What if itās non-fiction, where the narrative voice is irrelevant?
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ā¦be inventiveā¦read as if youāre a sultry well stacked young ladyā¦like the one you punctured last week. 
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I think thatās called singing or dancing or digging. I canāt remember which.
OK, I might concede that for non-fiction the listener is getting a similar amount of information - and therefore not missing out on non-literal information, but I still maintain that the overall mental effort and therefore effect is very different.
I remember reading the end of one book - Birdsong by Sebastian Faulks and a) not being able to put it down and b) having a real phisiological reaction to the description of the cramped underground conditions in the book.
If listening to a grown-up read a book for you was the same, then @Bathsaint would have driven to Edinburgh instead of Bath and heād have crashed 11 times.
Noā¦ thatās not the definition of reading. The voice is important but itās not the main thing. Reading is about translating written words/symbols/braile into meaning in your head. Having someone read those words and also choose how to read and accentuate certain words means that theyāre doing the work in every sense and you havenāt read it.
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Youāre a stickler for the rules and no mistake.
Sometimes, when I text or e-mail someone, I say I ātalkedā to them. Even though there was no auditory interpretation of vibrations.
This isnāt evidence on your part! This insane definition of talking is just as bad as your definition of reading. I understand that language evolves and changes but youāre just making up meanings to any words you want. You need to show a bit more respect to the Queenās English. How fucking dare you.
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This is interesting https://www.thecut.com/2016/08/listening-to-a-book-instead-of-reading-isnt-cheating.html
(because it agrees with me, and people who disagree with me are not interesting)
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I wonāt read that because youāve made it clear that it disagrees with me. However, based purely on the headline, Iāve not said that listening to audio books is ācheatingā, Iāve just said itās not reading. Iām not making any judgement about the validity of audio books. Iāve listened to an audio book and enjoyed doing so (mainly because it was Alan partridge read by Steve Coogan). Reading is meant to be something enjoyable for people, like watching films or listening to music. People can listen to books if they want, if it helps them enjoy the story or textā¦ but they better not say theyāve read it or theyāll anger me and Iāll destroy them.
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This thread has gone exactly the way I expected it to. Excellent.
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