Has the Brexit argument been effectively won so

Originally posted by @Ex-Trader

Originally posted by @areloa-grandee

Originally posted by @Ex-Trader

Originally posted by @areloa-grandee

Originally posted by @CB-Saint

1 I reserve the right to be a twat due my beer caveat

2 I missed “you are a twat”. from my list

3 I get the frustration, but the howling on social media is a little ridiculous.

4 **It would have been absolutely the right thing to do to expose the electorate to the referendum if the vote had gone the other way **

Nope, a point I made on about page 5 - same applies to the remain voters but without the xenophobes, racists and general cunts. Should never have gone to a ref.

We seem to scream for democracy, but with that comes responsibility to at least try and understand or acknowledge ALL the elements of what you are deciding OR if too complex, elect leaders to be accountable for it. NOT take one issue that you have been fed lies about for 10+ years and let that define the decision…

The ONLY reason this went to a ref is because Cameron knew it was the only way to get the right of his party on his side. He gambled and lost… and Barry feels sorry for him! Bless… Two twats welcome to each other.

You’ve done yourself no favours today.

Sorry? With all due respect, I have merely expressed an honest opinion and stand by it - if you wish to patronise, tell me, did you fall for this or do you condone it? either way that it does you ‘no favours’ … :lou_facepalm_2:

Farage ‘‘360m a week extra for NHS a mistake…’’

I merely meant that the language used and your (1/2)dismissal of over half the people of this country as racist, thick, uneducated idiots just because they have the temerity to hold different opinions to your good self marks you out an (3) undesirable individual, unworthy of respect.

  1. 17mil is NOT half of the country - Go back to school

  2. If you even bothered to read things properly you would see that in all my posts I acknowledge that the numbers who are indeed as described sadly the ‘casting vote’ MINORITY. The fact that 90%+ of ALL voters on both sides would not be able to disect all the nuances of this complex issue is a fact and why I stated it should never have gone to a referendum…

  3. Now forgive me, but ‘undesirable individual, unworthy of respect?’ seriously? If you are than let me point out that the people who use those terms and langugae tend to be the bigots, racist and champions of Eugenics. I suggest you retract it because its making you look exactly like a the type individual you accuse me of labeling all leavers…

If not, i suggest you have merely blown your cover and revealed your true nature…and can go fuck yourself

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And GA calls me thick. You can’t even write English.

Oh and answer the question, did you fall for Farage’s lie, or condone it?

Interviews with some leave voters…

Originally posted by @lifeintheslowlane

Originally posted by @Sadoldgit

Originally posted by @TheCholulaKid

Someone in my work last night…‘I don’t know which way to vote. I like going to France so want to vote in. But if we vote out then we’ll get a new hospital every week, which is a really good thing’.

Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of ill informed tabloid-led people like this voted yesterday and decided the future of this country and the future of the country my children will grow up in. Fucking morons. Fuck you, David Cameron, for giving in to a handful of fucking ideological nutjobs and forcing us down this path. And fuck old people too.

On a more positive note, given that I am 62 I readilly concur with that last statement!!

I’m 67 and I agree too.

Fucking hell, it’s like Dad’s Army in here.

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Time to close this thread?

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Yeah.

Insults have replaced debate.

A pity.

I vote to leave the thread.

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seconded - it will just get bitter now…

Originally posted by @cobham-saint

Time to close this thread?

Agreed - it’s all got a bit silly.

My last comments are beautifully summed up by this guy:

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Jeez, what happened in here? :lou_facepalm_2:

Thanks Brexiters. The people of Britain have cost me thousands as now I’ve got to get married, pay for her citizenship, new passports etc. Have you even tried the citizenship test, its ridiculous, “how many thousand years ago did farmers start farming in Britain?” Fuck off. And why is it, " oh if you don’t like it then move to Europe!" Why can’t us remainers say shit like that “oh if you don’t like it move to North Korea.” Cuntwomblingstainsacks.

Oh and now were going to have Lord racist Farage and Bojo the Clown running the country.

At least Muse are rocking it.

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It just sounds like you don’t want to marry your missus in all honesty.

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It was a very emotive day yesterday and I can’t say that I feel much better this morning. Having slept on it my feelings are these. Democracy didn’t serve us well on this occasion. I say that not because I didn’t agree with the result, but because if the way that result was reached. The campaigns, both of them, were based on scare mongering, half truths and downright lies. This was summed up perfectly when Farage admitted it was a mistake to say that savings would be poured into the NHS. This was a MASSIVE decision. Probably bigger in its effect on people’s lives than voting to become a republic. Yet the issues on which it was decided we’re played out at a level of The Sun type headlines and hyperbole. We were told that we will be better off if we leave. Truth is that no one knows for sure one way or the other. No one knows what will happen to us when we leave so how can we possibly make an informed decision? So then the decisions get made through fear or prejudice. Or in the case of some people apparently, they wanted to remain but voted leave as a protest! WTF? If we don’t like a government we can vote them out after 5 years. In 5 years time we can’t just vote ourselves back in to the EU if we don’t like being out. I have not met a single person who has a handle on the issues, this is not surprising as the issues are so very complex. So we vote because of whatever we feel about being Little Englanders or wanting be a part of something bigger. If it wasn’t for a small strip of water we would not be having this conversation today. But somehow the English Channel, slightly bigger than a big river, means, to some, that we are different and special. We are not different and we are not special. The remainders have been called arrogant because of the condescending attitude towards Brexiters. I would say that the arrogance lies with the people who think for some reason we are more special than the millions of people in the EU. There are still people who think that Great Britain is so called because of our supposed “magnificence.” The poll tax came about through a democratically elected government but was overturned because it was wrong. I think that many people will work tirelessly to overturn this decision - not because they are bad losers, but because it was arrived at through fear and ignorance.

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Going back to fucking old people (fuck as in having sexual union with). I think one of the first things Boris should do as PM is to bring in a Fuck A Pensioner Day as a thank you for all exit votes!

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Originally posted by @StickyWhiteDovePiss

Originally posted by @Barry-Sanchez

Originally posted by @StickyWhiteDovePiss

Little Englander Pap.

The guy who’s worldliness amounts to working visits to the US and N.Ireland.

Who uses his Pakistani relatives as a mask to hide his own ignorance of the world.

Fuck off you condescending prick.

Oh I say!

You’re a pair of armchair cloud cuckoo land fuckwits who have spouted utter shit all over this thread. Little Englanders is right. As a British Citizen living in an EU country in mainland Europe You’ve managed to fuck people like me over nicely though. And what the fuck for? Is this going to solve

So basically, it’s all about you?

  1. the problems with the underfunded health system.
  1. the housing market
  1. the broken political system.

  2. the broken and extortionately priced higher education system.

  3. the vast wealth inequalities

  4. a job market skewed towards shitty badly paid service jobs.

  5. an unelected head of state

  6. etc…

I doubt even the most hardline Brexiter would have claimed leaving the EU was a panacea for fixing all woes.

Leaving will remove many of the barriers to solving some of those problems.

Is it fuck, because all the issues are caused by vile, greedy fucking British cunts, not the fucking Europeans.

Greece.

After denying your kids the opportunities you had in your homeland, You’ve now denied your kids the opportunity to free higher education, better healthcare and better opportunities in mainland Europe. The EU was actually a potential way out of the poverty stricken broken way of British life, but now youve contributed towards closing that off. Fucking mental.

It was also a potential means of tyranny.

You are fucking right I hate Britain Barry. All the evidence suggest its infested with cunts like yourself and Pap. Who the fuck are you? I don’t recognise you as my people.

T-girls?

StickyWhiteDovePiss is my favourite poster

He is as angry as I get when one of the maids forgets to dust :lou_lol:

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I was going to hit back with more venom, but thought better of it.

He’s never going to be able to earn as much in Britain as he does renting his ring to perverted Germans. It must be an upsetting time.

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A great article which pretty much summarises how we got into this mess. Hint: it was down to politicians being arseholes:

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Wow. Really? You’re more of a dick than you came across in your posts, then.