If there is anything on that image that you contest, point it out.
I’m guessing the creator was probably pro-Brexit, which is why he or she left all those Remain arguments you want off the poster.
People have a means of looking up information for themselves to get an idea of whether it’s true. They should. People can and have provided other perspectives. This one is of particular interest to those that live in Southampton.
You musn’t take them things too srs g. They’re not political commentary, they’re just prejudiced overly-simplistic bollocks for spazzers to post on facebook,
… to repeat, its about context in a bigger debate. Should localised issues such as this determine how folks vote on this issue? I suspect it will locally, same as the opposite may apply where jobs have bene created through EU investment/loans. Given this is NOT a local issue, is it right that local issues are used in this way without the balance? You argue that people ‘Should’ look up teh rest, but how many do?
Far too many people will vote in this refferendum without any factual information or a real understanding of the implications of being in or out- and to me that is why I still believe its not something that should ever have gone to a referendum… Emotive rhetoric…
Nice. Cameron gets told he’s fucked it all up. Dodgy Dave!
https://amp.twimg.com/v/abd7f02d-a812-4961-baad-b1dc04abff22
Bomb Wales?
Have you been to Bridgend?
I thought they had.
1 in six Brits think that a Brexit means that they won’t be able to go on holiday in Europe. 
QED Pap… QED 
What are you suggesting, GA?
That we end universal suffrage? People can choose not to vote if they don’t feel qualified.
Are you complaining that the campaigns have been rubbish or that people are too stupid to vote GA?
both, for me.
Originally posted by @KRG
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Are you complaining that the campaigns have been rubbish or that people are too stupid to vote GA?
both, for me.
Are you voting KRG?
Originally posted by @KRG
Originally posted by @Goatboy
Are you complaining that the campaigns have been rubbish or that people are too stupid to vote GA?
both, for me.
Are you suggesting we end universal suffrage?
The public has been asking for a say in this for decades. Representative politics denied them that say for 40 years. If we had left it to politicians, there would be no change whatsoever, despite a lot of public appetite.
That’s not democracy. That’s saying a certain class of people know better, the exact kind of class that are insulated from the realities of the people they represent.
I don’t see any other way of resolving this issue.
Lets leave it all up to Dave, Gideon and their altruistic mates in big business and the corridors of the EU. How can it possibly go wrong?
Fuck that. I have a vote and I will be using it. I do find it quite amazing that I’ve got this vote though.
I think there need to be a differentiation here. No one is saying folks are too dumb to deswrve a vote. BUT I am suggesting many volks have insufficient information on which to make a rational as opposed to emotive decsion. This is the problem with such a complex situation. Its why we elect politicians who can spend their time analysing these comple socio0-economic issues. Because Mr and Mrs average working person simply has no time to researcg what is needed tomake a rational decison.
Pap you make 'make time or have time, but most folk simply dont so will vote according to emotive reasons, whatever pulls at their heartstrings or what they read in single newspaper… To me that is NOT what democracy is about - this is NOT an election for our representatives - we elected representatives to make these descions.
YOu cant make sweeping statements that the ‘public’ has demanded this say for 40 years - that is total bollocks. You kno it is as well so at least admit it… What evidence and numbers do you have to support this? Those that have demanded it are those that want out, for whatever reasons…I doubt its a majority… but the ‘public’ has been told it should make this decison because the parties wont come out and say what they support in their manifestos becaus ethey are too divided…
Goaty, I am not saying those who are in power will decisde for the RIGHT reasosn, but its the principle, and I for one find it scary that there are those who simply dont have a clue who will determine the outcome - how is this deomocratic and responsible?
Apologies for the hideous typos - half time and need to type quickly…
In news that will delight Barry, his hero Dennis Skinner has come out for Brexit.
Skinner says it’s concerns about the future of the NHS, along with the need to clampdown on capitalism that has caused him to back Leave:
‘In the old days they could argue you might get a socialist government in Germany, but there’s not been one for donkeys’ years. At one time there was Italy, the Benelux countries, France and Germany, Portugal, Spain and us. Now there’s just one in France and it’s hanging on by the skin of its teeth.’
He adds that he is not worried about workers’ rights being at risk if we leave the EU as the Tories would have a hard time shifting them.
While a Labour MP making the left-wing case for Brexit is the last thing the Remain camp needs as they try to rally the party’s supporters, Skinner’s preference shouldn’t come as a surprise. The 84-year-old is known for being a Eurosceptic — once telling Cameron not to expect two-way traffic if Turkey joined the EU.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/beast-bolsover-backs-brexit/
If this is troubling you with regards to the referendum, can you answer this question with regards to the EU Institutions and it’s behaviour?
Reading your post again GA, you seem to be saying that politicians must know best and we should trust them to make these big decisions because they have more information than us. If this is really what you are saying then I don’t see us coming to any agreement. Emotive decisions? What does that actually mean? Does Gideon really have a clue? How is his opinion any more valid than my Dad’s?
I agree that the public don’t have enough information or necessarily understand that information to make an informed judgement. I consider myself to be a reasonably intelligent person but I don’t know enough about the referendum. This is, in part, down to appalling campaigning by both sides and partly because there are no set answers…no one really knows what will happen if we leave. I don’t know if I’d want to leave it to politicians, but I certainly don’t trust some of the British public to make sensible decisions, after all, they voted the current government in.
Originally posted by @Fatso
I agree that the public don’t have enough information or necessarily understand that information to make an informed judgement. I consider myself to be a reasonably intelligent person but I don’t know enough about the referendum. This is, in part, down to appalling campaigning by both sides and partly because there are no set answers… no one really knows what will happen if we leave. I don’t know if I’d want to leave it to politicians, but I certainly don’t trust some of the British public to make sensible decisions, after all, they voted the current government in.
Or if we remain. Fuck me you’d be mad not to be scared of the British Public. Anyone that’s watched any reality tv or x factor voice shit will know that the BP is bonkers and will generally vote to piss the powers that be right off. Stick your Euro up your arse. I give you Wagner and Rhyddian.
We have a vote however illusory that may be. I honestly believe that if you vote to remain, Simon Cowell wins.